# Lost 1.15: "Homecoming" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 10, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307 "2005-02-10T00:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/41 "2005-02-10T02:10:02Z")
> [@av8rmike](#): > > And when are we going to get to the Hurley flashback?? I hope soon. Duuuuuude. > [@](#): > > from _NoClueBoy_ > This week had a butt load of action, but very little to move the mystery forward. Except for the part about Locke thinking Ethan isn’t alone. What does he know? Well, he knows what Sayid told them – that the French woman said there were “others” on the island. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/42 "2005-02-10T02:15:02Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > I am more and more sure that Jin speaks English too. He’s asking his wife what’s going on… so what? Why would she know anything if she’s not supposed to speak the language either? She wouldn’t – but the tone of their conversation (at least from him) appeared to be more speculating, not expecting her to know. More of, “wonder what’s going on” rather than “hey, tell me what’s going on”. Her body language during the exchange was good – subtle. Good job by the actress, I thought. Made it clear to the viewer that she was covering up the fact that she understood what was happening but was trying to carefully respond to her husband in a way that wouldn’t let on that she knew. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/43 "2005-02-10T02:15:06Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Kate knows how to handle a gun (from the bank robbery flashback), . When _was_ that. I have dutifully followed every episode but never saw that scene, so I’m wondering if the phone rang or something. Which episode had the robbery flashback? > [@Antigen](#): > > ``` > Ok, that Ethan guy is an X-Files SuperSoldier or something. Scott had a broken neck, and every bone in his arms and hands was broken? Whoa. > > ``` Or maybe he knows how to summon A.L.E.C.K.S. the castaway killing machine… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/44 "2005-02-10T02:21:09Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > When _was_ that. I have dutifully followed every episode but never saw that scene, so I’m wondering if the phone rang or something. Which episode had the robbery flashback? Episode #12 – “Whatever the Case May Be” It was the one where Kate and Sawyer found the metal case, but it was locked. And Kate kept trying to get it away from Sawyer (and only she knew where the key was). ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/45 "2005-02-10T02:22:42Z")
I missed the last twenty minutes or so. I got to the point where Kate said she wanted to go with them to find Ethan. Detailed spoilers please. I saw Charley throwing up on the copier. Would they really have sent him out into the field without a complete orientation of the equipment? :dubious: Oh, does anyone think that the actor that plays Hurley will gradually get thinner as the show goes on? They alluded to the fact that he’s already had to tighten his belt a notch, and I think it would be a nice touch if Hurley continues to lose weight due to all the heavy lifting and fresh food. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/46 "2005-02-10T02:31:38Z")
Accoreding to AICN, Hurley’s flashback is in Episode 18 : Numbers (March 2) based on epguides, I think Hurley won a lottery. Also, AICN says there will be 24 episodes this season (uncommon these days) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/47 "2005-02-10T02:36:21Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Episode #12 – “Whatever the Case May Be” > > It was the one where Kate and Sawyer found the metal case, but it was locked. And Kate kept trying to get it away from Sawyer (and only she knew where the key was). _blink, blink_… What? 😕 Did… nah, could be… did… Did I _miss an episode_??? Oh, I feel whoozy! I think I’m going to faint. _throws up on photocopier_ Argh! Link me to a synopsis! Link me to a synopsis! ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/48 "2005-02-10T02:37:38Z")
I’ll be back later…Wish I could get Lost a lot sooner. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/49 "2005-02-10T02:45:33Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > Argh! Link me to a synopsis! Link me to a synopsis! [Your wish is my command.](http://televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=136&story=7299&limit=&sort=) ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/50 "2005-02-10T02:47:11Z")
I had pretty much figured that Steve or Scott would die and that Charlie would kill Ethan from all the clues and various spoiler hints. Poor Scott, we hardly knew ye. From everything we’ve seen Ethan must be pretty darn strong, he broke Scott’s neck, arms and fingers? Isn’t the arms and fingers overkill? He had to break his neck first otherwise he would have cried out so why break more bones? Was he just trying to be even more bad ass? Vincent licking Boone was cute. So … did anyone else pick up on what was actually being said between Sun and Jin when Claire first came back? I’m talking about a possible double meaning of asking if the baby was alright. Spoilers are that Sun is also pregnant and that conversation seemed to hint that they weren’t just talking about Claire’s baby. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/51 "2005-02-10T02:48:30Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > Argh! Link me to a synopsis! Link me to a synopsis! [TWOP Recaps of “Lost.”](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=136) ---
**Author:** ![Rillian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rillian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rillian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/52 "2005-02-10T02:50:54Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Her body language during the exchange was good – subtle. Good job by the actress, I thought. Made it clear to the viewer that she was covering up the fact that she understood what was happening but was trying to carefully respond to her husband in a way that wouldn’t let on that she knew. So did anyone else think that Jin (and Sun) had an unnatural interest in the welfare of Claire’s baby? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/53 "2005-02-10T03:02:51Z")
> [@Rillian](#): > > So did anyone else think that Jin (and Sun) had an unnatural interest in the welfare of Claire’s baby? No, because I don’t think they were talking exclusively about Claire’s baby. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/54 "2005-02-10T03:26:27Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Paper company in Slough?? > > Bwa ha ha ha! My reaction, exactly! 🙂 > [@Wile E](#): > > > [@Rillian](#): > > > > So did anyone else think that Jin (and Sun) had an unnatural interest in the welfare of Claire’s baby? > > No, because I don’t think they were talking exclusively about Claire’s baby. You don’t? What other baby do you think they were talking about? It seemed pretty clear to me that they were wondering if Claire was ok, then wondering if her baby (specifically) was ok. I share **Rillian** ’s feeling that Jin & Sun seemed unusually interested in the baby’s welfare…for a moment I wondered if maybe they were supposed to have been adopting a baby or something. The vibe when they were talking about it definitely struck me as weird. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/55 "2005-02-10T03:31:52Z")
Well, the fact they actually had them talking to each other with our eavesdropping ability (captions) should tell us something. Nothing gets said on this show frivolously. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/56 "2005-02-10T03:56:10Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > My reaction, exactly! 🙂 > > You don’t? What other baby do you think they were talking about? It seemed pretty clear to me that they were wondering if Claire was ok, then wondering if her baby (specifically) was ok. > > I share **Rillian** ’s feeling that Jin & Sun seemed unusually interested in the baby’s welfare…for a moment I wondered if maybe they were supposed to have been adopting a baby or something. The vibe when they were talking about it definitely struck me as weird. I already gave my reasons in a spoiler box in a previous post. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/57 "2005-02-10T03:59:30Z")
When I saw that Charlie had shot and killed Ethan, I got suspicious. Remember Charlie was taken when Claire was, and between their abduction and his hanging, he claimed to remember nothing. We have no real idea what the agenda of The Others is, but we do have hints of people being killed (by CFL) because they had changed. This initially made me think that Charlie had been ‘programmed’ and was now a mole within the castaway group, and that he shot Ethan to shut him up. After more thought, I’m thinking that theory doesn’t fly. Charlie’s flashbacks this episode would seem to support his desire to be looked up to as a protector, in this instance by Claire. If the island is indeed somehow a granter of wishes, then Charlie’s desire to protect Claire from the threat of Ethan forever was indeed made manifest. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/58 "2005-02-10T04:05:15Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > I already gave my reasons in a spoiler box in a previous post. My bad for missing your spoiler box (I tend to skip them), but even now that I’ve read it I _still_ think it was pretty clear that they were talking about Claire’s baby. So there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/59 "2005-02-10T04:09:10Z")
> [@av8rmike](#): > > And when are we going to get to the Hurley flashback?? According to spoiler sites: March 2nd - Happy birthday to me - just what I always wanted, or at least since around October or so ;). I haven’t read any spoilers about what the backstory actually is. > [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Lucy said “You’ll never take care of anyone.” and then Claire says, “I trust you, Charlie.” He came back home… to his old self. The pre rock star, pre junkie person who respected nuns and liked flowers. I think the line from Claire was “I _want_ to trust you, Charlie”. Slight bit of difference. ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307/60 "2005-02-10T04:10:53Z")
Going back to the reference someone made about the X-Files super beings. I kind of wonder if Ethan is going to pull a Krycek and keep turning up like a bad penny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-15-homecoming/289307.md?page=4)