# Lost 1.16 "Outlaws"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 16, 2005, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383 "2005-02-16T18:23:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/121 "2005-02-18T16:42:37Z")

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According to my on-screen guide, the episode 2 weeks out will be (this is a pretty significant spoiler, so don’t read it if you don’t want to know):

Hurley goes off to find CFL, because he has recently won the Lottery and notices that his winning lottery number is on her map!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/122 "2005-02-18T17:01:08Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> According to my on-screen guide, the episode 2 weeks out will be (this is a pretty significant spoiler, so don’t read it if you don’t want to know):
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> Hurley goes off to find CFL, because he has recently won the Lottery and notices that his winning lottery number is on her map!

I posted something about this in the thread about who will die. The tivo description also says that Jack, Locke and Charlie (I think) go after him. I think this may be the episode where a main character dies, and my money is on Hurley.

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/123 "2005-02-18T21:52:44Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> No, the kid in _Confidence Man_ wasn’t “Sawyer.” Sawyer was just working a practically identical con on the kid’s parents. […] _That_ kid’s parents didn’t get wiped out, and he wasn’t orphaned by a murder-suicide as a result of it.
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> “Sawyer” thought he was killing “Sawyer,” the con-man who destroyed his family, but he was just tricked into killing some schmuck who had no connection to him at all.

Thanks **Larry**. Believe it or not, I actually understood all this. There is island-Sawyer, con-man-Sawyer (the real one), shrimp-Sawyer (the schmuck), and child-Sawyer (never seen but implied from the _Confidence Man_ episode. Whew. It’s no wonder I was confused.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/124 "2005-02-18T23:19:53Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I don’t know, but I’d be willing to pay money to see him try. He can pull of charming and assholish so well, don’t you think?
> 
> **Odinoneye** , I bow in honor of your talent.
> 
> Now do it to the theme of _Friends_.

Well thank you.

As for your request, I only do the classics.

That and I never watched Friends enough to get the theme song down right. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rillian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rillian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rillian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/125 "2005-02-19T01:39:46Z")

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> [@Algernon](#):
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> Thanks **Larry**. Believe it or not, I actually understood all this. There is island-Sawyer, con-man-Sawyer (the real one), shrimp-Sawyer (the schmuck), and child-Sawyer (never seen but implied from the _Confidence Man_ episode.

Not seen in _Confidence Man_, but seen in this episode. Child-Sawyer equals boy hiding under bed while his father kills mother and then himself.

Since he uses the name “James” with Shrimp-Sawyer (Frank Duckett), let’s call him James. Con-man-Sawyer (Frank Sawyer) had seduced James’ (child-Sawyer’s) mother to get to James’ father’s money.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/126 "2005-02-19T02:00:03Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Well thank you.
> 
> As for your request, I only do the classics.
> 
> That and I never watched Friends enough to get the theme song down right. 😃

All in the Family? Happy Days? Laverne and Shirley? MASH? The Jeffersons? Mayberry RFD? Three’s Company? Can you do any of those?

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**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/127 "2005-02-19T02:35:53Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> [hijack]And as a huge Diana Gabaldon fan, I can really see the actor who play Sawyer as Stephen Bonnet.[/hijack]

OMG! It’s been YEARS since I read that book, but the instant I read this, I thought **YESSS!**

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/128 "2005-02-19T02:37:48Z")

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Then I suggest you pick up that series again, **kath**. I myself cannot seem to go more than a year before I pick the first book up and start all over again.

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**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/129 "2005-02-19T02:40:17Z")

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Will do! Aren’t we due for another Claire and Jamie book by now anyway?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/130 "2005-02-19T02:44:36Z")

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Well, the most recent one came out in [2002](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385336764/qid=1108781888/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-5921111-8559111), so I don’t think we’re going to get another one this year.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/131 "2005-02-19T13:57:24Z")

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Since we are off on casting tangents, has anyone suggested that if/when they ever make the Preacher movie, Terry O’Quinn HAS to play [Herr Starr](http://www.loq12.at/comics/06_preacher/img/starr.jpg)?

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/132 "2005-02-19T21:42:14Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Well thank you.
> 
> As for your request, I only do the classics.
> 
> That and I never watched Friends enough to get the theme song down right. 😃

How about “Beverly Hillbillies” then? 😉

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/133 "2005-02-19T22:47:07Z")

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**StarvingButStrong.** Yeah, I can do that.

Come and listen to a story about a bunch of castaways  
How they ended up ‘Lost’ and how they spend their days  
Seems one day they all boarded on a plane  
That crashed landed hard on bizarre terrain.

A fantasy island. Black rock. Crazy French Lady.

Well, the next thing you know, ol’ TCM came  
Folks said “Jack! Let’s move into the caves!”  
Michael said, “I refuse to be polar bear food,”  
So he builted him a raft for he and Walt, kinda crude.

Crude? we’ll see. Locke’s cool. The Others, far.

THE LOST CASTAWAYS!

da DA da da da a da DA da da da dada DA

…

And now it’s time to end this song  
with Sawyer, Sun and Jin  
Hurley rocks and Claire’s sweet  
And Rose is kinda prim  
Has Boone got over Sharon? Will Sayid nail his sis?  
Charlie shot up Ethan. Good thing he did not miss.

Y’all come back now y’hear?

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/134 "2005-02-20T00:37:57Z")

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Ask and thou shalt [receive](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385324162/qid=1108860707/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/002-9996433-6686424?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

September 27th is the release date.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/135 "2005-02-20T00:40:49Z")

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Oops, I forgot to quote kath94 in my post above. I was referring to Diana Gabaldon’s new book.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/136 "2005-02-20T01:26:10Z")

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Gee, I go away a couple days and my gimmick is stolen…

Come and sleep in the caves  
(come and sleep in the caves)  
Eat a guava or two  
(Take a banana or two)

Come to that place that needs a child

Wierd Island Woo!

Run away from the beast  
(run away from the beast)  
Don’t be polar bear chow  
(Don’t be polar bear chow)

Your life means little here

Weird Island Woo!

You’ll see that boar is so edible  
and so are bananas and roots

You’re stuck here for life  
(You’re stuck her for life)

Weird Island Woo!

And let’s not forget…

Hello! I’m the TCM

A beast is a beast at least at least  
and no one can run from the beast at least  
that is at least, unless the beast is the famous TCM

Don’t be a feast, get away from the beast  
it won’t even help if you’re a priest  
Only Locke has been released  
Run from the TCM

People kill and hurt a maim  
and take a random shot  
but The TCM will never kill  
unless it advances the plot.

A beast is a beast at least at least  
and this one will chomp till they’re all deceased.

You never heard of a roaring beast?

Well listen to this…

I’m THE TCM!

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/137 "2005-02-20T02:01:02Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Ask and thou shalt [receive](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385324162/qid=1108860707/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/002-9996433-6686424?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
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> September 27th is the release date.

When would that put the Season Premiere? I couldn’t see them releasing the DVD AFTER the premiere…

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/138 "2005-02-20T02:02:42Z")

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Aghhh! Nevermind. I thought it was a request for the DVD Season 1 release date! :smack:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/139 "2005-02-20T12:40:55Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Ask and thou shalt [receive](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385324162/qid=1108860707/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/002-9996433-6686424?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
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> September 27th is the release date.

I was wrong! I was wrong! There will be a new book this year!

::Circles Sept 27 on her calendar in a big red circle::

I’m so glad I’m rereading the books now. They’ll be fresh in my mind!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-16-outlaws/290383/140 "2005-02-21T19:08:44Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> According to my on-screen guide, the episode 2 weeks out will be (this is a pretty significant spoiler, so don’t read it if you don’t want to know):
> 
> Hurley goes off to find CFL, because he has recently won the Lottery and notices that his winning lottery number is on her map!

Why didn’t I think of this when I orginally posted the above???

How much you wanna bet that Hurley’s winning lottery numbers contain an “8” and a “15”?

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