# Lost 1.17 "In Translation" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 23, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551 "2005-02-23T16:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/21 "2005-02-24T00:50:42Z")
Wow, Sun diffused the conflict between Michael and Jin perfectly. She saved Jin’s “honor” AND placed Michael in a position where he couldn’t retaliate. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/22 "2005-02-24T00:59:27Z")
You know, those two actors are a stunningly beautiful couple, too. wow Sun knows what Jin does for her father. She tried to warn Michael. Hurley, “Try a sea urchin. They got more Ping.” 🙂 Sawyer’s booked passage on the raft! So… that shot of Locke… implying he set the blaze? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/23 "2005-02-24T01:05:20Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > This one isn’t! This one is! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/24 "2005-02-24T01:07:59Z")
Was that Hurley on the TV at the Environtmental guy’s house?? ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/25 "2005-02-24T01:08:59Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Was that Hurley on the TV at the Environtmental guy’s house?? YES!!! Getting into a car!! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/26 "2005-02-24T01:11:24Z")
The abilty that Jin actor has to say things with his face! The “mob style shake down” scene was an eye opener for us. Jin didn’t know, at least, not at the start, that he was being groomed as an enforcer. (If indeed he was.) ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/27 "2005-02-24T01:12:23Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > So… that shot of Locke… implying he set the blaze? I immediately thought the same thing. It seems a little obvious, though (heavy-handed, even - LOOK! Look at Locke! Look at him!), so I think it’ll turn out to be a red herring. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/28 "2005-02-24T01:13:22Z")
After a couple rewinds, I concur. So, what’s the Big Guy doing on Korean television? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/29 "2005-02-24T01:15:48Z")
Locke: “Everyone gets a new life on this island, Shannon. Maybe it’s time you started yours.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/30 "2005-02-24T01:23:38Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > YES!!! Getting into a car!! We need to freeze-frame it and read the subtitles. Anyone speak Korean here? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/31 "2005-02-24T01:23:53Z")
Jin has a conscience. He took what he saw as the lesser of two eis to save a man’s life. Does this same attitude hold for the Island Jin? Sun is out of the closet. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/32 "2005-02-24T01:25:12Z")
What did Jin and Sun talk about right after the raft fire? The subtitles were covered up by an Amber Alert. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/33 "2005-02-24T01:25:26Z")
Jin was letting himself get beat up, in an attempt to confirm his suspicions that Sun could speak english. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/34 "2005-02-24T01:26:02Z")
eis = Korean phonetic spelling of evils. ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/35 "2005-02-24T01:27:43Z")
Does anyone remember from Sun’s flashback, after Jin comes home all bloody, how soon afterwards she decides to book it? I’m betting (possible spoiler for future episodes): Sun’s little candlelight dinner was when she was going to break the news that she’s pregnant. When she saw what Jin really did for her father, she decided she didn’t want the baby growing up like that. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/36 "2005-02-24T01:34:24Z")
That shot of Jin walking away from Sun on the beach, the long shot, was so beautiful. An immense wave of sadness hit right then. All because of 12 seconds of film. Jin’s father is alive!? wtf??? REDEMPTION! ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/37 "2005-02-24T01:42:57Z")
Very nice shot there of Claire’s big preggy tummy… and Hurley sitting in the same position. Glad the batteries died there… weren’t we saying we’re sick of the musical endings? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/38 "2005-02-24T01:44:49Z")
TiVo-ers! This ep runs long! Excellent episode. Plot moves forward. Locke is a God! He knew Walt burned the raft. How? Heart in throat, that last scene. I normally don’t like the song endings, but this one got me. Damn. Ended perfectly, too. wow ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/39 "2005-02-24T01:44:56Z")
Best ending ever! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551/40 "2005-02-24T01:46:28Z")
Great episode, and the batteries running out was just perfect! About 10 seconds earlier, I’d thought “Wow, those are some great batteries in that CD player.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-17-in-translation/291551.md?page=3)