# Lost 1.18 "Numbers"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 2, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600 "2005-03-02T15:48:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chefjef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@chefjef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chefjef)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/201 "2005-03-03T22:05:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Actually, I have heard (and I don’t know how accurate this is) that the last shot of the season will be …

Yes! Perfect! I love that. I like so much about this show, but dammit, I missed the first 20 minutes of last night AND my Tivo didn’t record it, and i’m already confused!

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**Author:** ![Severian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Severian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Severian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/202 "2005-03-03T22:05:13Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Dude, I totally missed that. [She has Hurley hair](http://www.physics.hku.hk/~tboyce/image_gifs/pandora.jpg). (Wasn’t he wearing it that way in this episode?)

Man, I get no respect (See post #59).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/203 "2005-03-03T22:05:47Z")

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If I were Hurley’s mom and somebody gave me a 5,000 sq. ft. mansion, the first thing that would go through my mind would be “How the hell am I going to keep this place clean?”

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/204 "2005-03-03T22:21:29Z")

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> [@Severian](#):
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> Man, I get no respect (See post #59).

Did somebody say something? I thought I heard a vague whisper.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/205 "2005-03-03T22:27:13Z")

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People, you’re running off in all sorts of wrong directions with the transmission thing.

The hand radio they tried to use (the one they got from the cockpit) couldn’t reach its satellite receiver because the CFL’s transmission was drowning it out. That’s one strong damn signal.

The CFL’s transmission wasn’t being responded to because… actually, we don’t know why. Something strong enough to drown out another transmission, even if it’s just a Jerry Colonna song, or that soccer announcer yelling “GOOOOOOAAAAALLLL!!!”, is going to draw some attention, and people are going to be coming by to shut the thing down, because it’s a menace to things, like, say, emergency radios kept in the cockpits of jetliners. That hasn’t happened, so, whatever is going on with the radios, it makes _no sense whatsoever._

Let’s keep focused on scantily-clad castaways, hmmm?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/206 "2005-03-03T22:29:52Z")

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Post # 198 is gonna get overlooked, I know it! (I hate Lost Doping at the end of a page, it always ends up ignored.)

🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/207 "2005-03-03T22:35:30Z")

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> Let’s keep focused on scantily-clad castaways, hmmm?

If scantily clad was the only thing on our minds, we’d be watching _America’s Next Top Model_ on UPN instead.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/208 "2005-03-03T22:37:46Z")

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Did anybody see Mad Tv’s Lost parody this weekend?

Micheal McDonald did a good Locke and Paul Vogt playing Hurley was pretty good.

The rest was pretty lame.

Although I did like the part about them running into the guy from Survivor and then doing his flashback.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/209 "2005-03-03T22:38:39Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> If scantily clad was the only thing on our minds, we’d be watching _America’s Next Top Model_ on UPN instead.

I only watch one thing on UPN, and when that’s gone UPN will cease to exist for me.

And _Survivor_r already got rid of the big tittie girl. ☹

I NEED a non pregnant nearly nude Claire!

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/210 "2005-03-03T22:44:10Z")

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When Hurley blew up at CFL, she had this expression of surprise on her face.

I was wondering how many viewers had it too.

I mean, this was Hurley raising his voice…

wow…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/211 "2005-03-03T22:55:34Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> How many times has it been opened before?
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> Is the illness related to the box?
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> When are we gonna see a non pregnant Claire in a bikini? We’ve seen the other three babes.
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> Is Locke’s obsession with the box related to his possible encounter with the TCM?
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> Hurley losing $86,000.00 to Walt isn’t really a good indicator of lucks colliding. Drop in a bucket to him, good money to the kid, no harm either way.

Was Claire inside the box? Is that what caused her amnesia? Would a pregnant woman pack a bikini for a flight to LA? Can a man be called “obsessed” when he hasn’t been near something for several episodes? 😃

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/212 "2005-03-03T22:59:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Was Claire inside the box? **Good question!**
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> Would a pregnant woman pack a bikini for a flight to LA? **She would if she knew what’s good for her!**
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> 😃

Ah, yes…

Much better now…

Cigarrette?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/213 "2005-03-03T23:07:32Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> I want to get into Kate’s…whoa! :eek:
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> Anyone catch Sawyer calling Walt “Short Round”? 🙂

well, thank goodness I heard it wrong. I honestly thought he said “short brown,” which would have been really bad!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/214 "2005-03-03T23:21:36Z")

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Something that occured to me on the way home: Where did Danielle get the ordinance? Where did she learn to fashion booby-traps? A simple snare like the one that caught Sayid is one thing. Pressure-release triggers and C-4 are another! Did she steal explosives from the “Others?”

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/215 "2005-03-03T23:36:16Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Something that occured to me on the way home: Where did Danielle get the ordinance? Where did she learn to fashion booby-traps? A simple snare like the one that caught Sayid is one thing. Pressure-release triggers and C-4 are another! Did she steal explosives from the “Others?”

First of all, it’s “ordnance” – an ordinance is a rule, ordnance is what you use to break a rule. It looked to me like it was a pre-fabricated mine, like something a platoon might bring with them if they expected to need to cover their tracks. The pressure plate was a little bit too sophisticated to have been made on the island, though. But remember, whoever set up that transmission tower (!) has a serious set-up.

Do we know which generation of castaways Ethan belongs to? He’s clearly not a 3rd-generation like Locke, but I’m not sure if he showed up with Rousseau or not. 16 years… he could have been born on the island.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/216 "2005-03-04T00:04:01Z")

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Did anybody else think that the bowl that Locke asked Claire to hand him was the same stuff he used on Boone.

The way the episode played out, I’d say no, but that was my first thought.

I figured the reason Locke asked Claire to help him was to convert her to his group.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/217 "2005-03-04T00:46:48Z")

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When Locke made the cradle for Claire, I got all verklempt and I had already guessed he was making a cradle from some spoiler pic I saw.

I hope the fact that it was hinted at that Hurley was in the looney bin means we will get a little more backstory on him.

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**Author:** ![Kingspades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kingspades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kingspades)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/218 "2005-03-04T01:24:38Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> I hate that I’m too lazy to check the boards when the show is over. I wait for Thursday morning, and then anything I might have wanted to say is taken. And I sit at my desk and pout.

Do what I do: say it anyway! To wit:

> [@Monstre](#):
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> nyii

No! Ni, ni, back of the throat.

Anyway, the fact that the five “regular” lottery numbers (as opposed to the “powerball” which was 42) are less than or equal to 26 made me think they could correspond to letters. By translating them and shifting the cypher, the closest thing I could get to anything interesting was “QUBCK” (which is, of course, the sound a French Canadian duck makes). Oh, well.

Was I the only one hoping that the secret Hurley was going to tell Charlie was why he’s called Hurley?

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/219 "2005-03-04T01:35:21Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> First of all, it’s “ordnance” – an ordinance is a rule, ordnance is what you use to break a rule.

I think it’s pretty obvious what **silenus** meant was, "Who drafted the concealed-weapons-permit legislation on Danielle’s behalf, what was the vote like at the city council, and how many revisions to the language were necessary before the mayor or city manager approved it?

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**Author:** ![Althea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@Althea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Althea)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-18-numbers/292600/220 "2005-03-04T02:43:44Z")

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I’m pretty sure Hurley was IN the mental hospital rather than an employee of it. Just before he goes in to meet with Leonard, the doctor says something to the effect of, “I don’t remember you being friends with Leonard.”

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