# Lost 1.23 "Exodus, Part One" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420 "2005-05-18T15:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/221 "2005-05-20T05:03:10Z")
> [@ElectricZ](#): > > Thought it was a fine episode… Lot’s of plot progress and character development, and I liked seeing the characters in/around the airport in their mini-flashbacks. > > Was it just me, or did Locke have a vibe going with the CFL? I don’t think she was returning it, but wouldn’t they make a cute couple? At the end of the show’s run when everybody else is rescued or whatever, Locke and the CFL will be waving to them as they both decide to stay on the island… I could actually see this happening… > [@ElectricZ](#): > > What was with the scratches on her arm? “It was a bush,” she told Locke. “Mean bush,” he replied. I like his talent for understatement. It reminded me of what he said when Walt talked about his mom dying. “You’ve had a bad month.” What I found interesting was that it looked like fingernail scratches, which Locke picked up on… > [@ElectricZ](#): > > And Sawyer just redeemed himself for all the bad blood he’s stirred up on the island. First reconciling with Jack, and then bringing a new mast to patch things up with Jin and Michael. There was a very short but telling shot of Sawyer watching the other castaways hug and wish the other raft-riders luck – and no one approached him. He may be realizing how much he pushes people away. I missed this one - I’ll have to Review The Tape to catch this… > [@ElectricZ](#): > > There was a similar scene of Kate looking around before heading out into the Jungle. Was she looking for Sawyer to say goodbye? Or judging her chances of maybe replacing him at the last second on the raft? I felt like she wanted to say her goodbyes after being a total beeyatch last week. > [@ElectricZ](#): > > And the chick Jack was talking to at the airport… Potential love interest, freeing up Kate to pursue Sawyer…? > > EZ Potential love interest, yes. Free to pursue Sawyer, no. Kate is clearly out for Number One. If Sawyer’s brains outweigh his testicles (a prohibitive favorite), he ain’t gonna fall for any more Kate bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/222 "2005-05-20T05:10:07Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I’m guessing it’s a note to his accountant telling him to pay the kid however many tens of thousands of dollars Hurley owes him due to backgammon losses. This sub-thread opens up a whole new can of worms. Could it have been a note to his accountant to avoid certain investments? A note to his mom? Or, my personal choice, a note to the Crazy Guy that he was right that the numbers were cursed??? What did the other castaways put in their notes??? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/223 "2005-05-20T05:11:18Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > Are there any valid ways a ship could end up in the middle of an island in the first place? Could a hurricane or cyclone throw a ship that size so far? Could it be that… the Island is **magic**? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/224 "2005-05-20T05:14:52Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > \*_tripthicket_, I agree with you about Vincent and Walt. Walt made him go back, not by yelling at him, but by something else. > > Sawyer doesn’t have a hairy chest. His jeans were rather low around his hips. Glistening with sweat…mmmm. Sooooooo… chicks get off on a shaved chest? It ain’t actually natural… > [@ivylass](#): > > Anyone get a good look at Jack’s tattoo? And did you notice when Danielle took off her shirt she had no underarm hair? Come on, she’s been on the island for 16 years, she’s French, and she has clean underarms? (Those little things bug me. I guess they can’t have the wimmen of the island getting all hairy and stuff.) Yeah, I’m waiting for a big gross-out scene real soon… ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/225 "2005-05-20T05:20:18Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > The maps Sayid took from CFL showed it as an island. She’s been there for 16 years, so it’s not outside the bounds of reason that she went walkabout and created the map. It would surely suck to get stranded on, say, the tip of Baja California and think it was an island just because it never occurred to you to walk around it… She may be crazy, but she’s not stupid. I will repeat an earlier request: that someone with a globe tape a string between Sydney and LA so we can figure out where they might be. My guess is that the Island sure as hell can’t be anything significant, size-wise. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/226 "2005-05-20T05:34:33Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > That is high school age, at least around here. Still doesn’t explain why he was in Australia during the school year, though. Maybe a teacher exchange program? > > You can have Sawyer. I’d rather watch a shirtless Jin building a raft. All the time. 😃 Some of us would rather have a shirtless Sun, Kate and Shannon working on a lineless tan… ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/227 "2005-05-20T05:58:59Z")
**ivylass** - I’m not really upset, it’s just one of my pet peeves. As for the Inga issue, that someone mentioned… I’m just so very, very tired of “Hello, my name is Inga. I am from Sveden”, which seems to be a meme that’s particulary hard to irradicate. Next to the Dutch, I think Danes, Norwegians and Swedish are the best non native English speakers in the world. The ratio of light blond, blue eyed, big boobed, tall, sex kittens among the female population is also amazingly small. What few there are tend to be named Jessica, Angelica, Michelle, Veronica, Marielle. Inga is not an option. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/228 "2005-05-20T06:23:57Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > I’m just so very, very tired of “Hello, my name is Inga. I am from Sveden” I’ve always heard that one with Ilsa, not Inga. How common is Ilsa over there? > [@](#): > > The ratio of light blond, blue eyed, big boobed, tall, sex kittens among the female population is also amazingly small. Well, that’s a bummer. Because any land populated with blond, blue-eyed, big-boobed sex kittens is one that I’d really like to visit. 😃 > [@Dewey Finn](#): > > So that could mean that people only arrive at the island after a supernatural event. I was thinking of something like in the miniseries “The Langoliers.” Okay, I **really** hope “The Others” are not big round chompy-mouths… ---
**Author:** ![StarsApart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StarsApart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarsApart)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/229 "2005-05-20T06:24:03Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > Could it be that… > > the Island is **magic**? Yeah, what part of “magic island” don’t you understand?!?! 😉 This is the first episode of this show I’d ever seen. My parents have been hooked since the beginning, but I only now got around to watching it. I guess I’ve got the summer to catch up on it, with reruns and all. Anyways, after reading this thread… I gotta admit it’s got me really intrigued. From this episode alone I wasn’t entirely aware of all the mysteries and subtle little things that go on in this show, so I’ll definitely be watching more! Does anybody know a place I can go to catch up on all this stuff? I don’t mind being spoiled for shows that’ve already gone by, and I want to know more about the mysterious stuff everyone has been mentioning. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/230 "2005-05-20T06:32:19Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > The plane wreck was an L-1011, which has nowhere near the range to make a Sydney to L.A. run. How could you tell it was an L-1011? I’d have thought the producers would make the model of the plane carefully nonspecific or fictional, just as they did with “Oceanic Air.” ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/231 "2005-05-20T10:35:50Z")
> [@StarsApart](#): > > Does anybody know a place I can go to catch up on all this stuff? I don’t mind being spoiled for shows that’ve already gone by, and I want to know more about the mysterious stuff everyone has been mentioning. [Televisionwithoutpity.com](http://Televisionwithoutpity.com) has nice long recaps that usually catch all the details. > [@](#): > > _Originally Posted by Oslo Ostragoth_ > > Could it be that… > > the Island is magic? Well, sure, it _could_ be the only reason that ship’s there, but that would suck. Magic is one of the hardest themes to write about, IME, because you need to keep it internally consistent. So this island is magic–how does its magic work? Why? These are important questions. Otherwise, you have a story where things happen just because they can and quality storytelling is overtaken by the desire to simply show off some flashy effect or magic trick. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/232 "2005-05-20T11:24:32Z")
So, the island draws things and people it wants to it. meaning that the Others could have been there for centuries, descended from the crew of the Black Rock. Why did it want the Nigerian drug smuggllers and a planeful of heroin in statues of Our Lady? ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/233 "2005-05-20T11:59:40Z")
Regarding the “lost” scene of Rousseau talking to Claire while liberating a pair of hiking boots… I did notice that while they were walking to the Black Rock that she had on a new pair of Timberland-style boots, and I wondered where she got them. I just figuered she took them from someone’s luggage. It’s very obvious they’re new compared to her dirty clothes. Maybe that scene was deleted? ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/234 "2005-05-20T12:02:11Z")
I think the spin-off show should have Kate, Sun, Shannon and Claire finding a mud wallow and then getting into a wrestling match. They wouldn’t really need bikinis. Once they ripped each other’s clothes off, the mud would cover them well enough. Well enough for me anyway… mmmmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/235 "2005-05-20T12:47:30Z")
Oh and both my wife and I agree it was “She took my baby” (my wife doesn’t watch the show. She just happened to be in the room whiel I was rewatching it and I asked her what she thought) Oh, and she agrees with the general concensus of a shirtless Sawyer ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/236 "2005-05-20T13:09:13Z")
So what’s with the black smoke? Surely the Others aren’t so polite as to send up a friendly warning signal. “OK, we’re coming to steal your babies now! Get ready!” ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/237 "2005-05-20T13:27:06Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > So what’s with the black smoke? I think it’s the exhaust from the massive sea-faring ship that the island is secretly resting on. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/238 "2005-05-20T13:31:05Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Sadly, with no gunports she’s unlikely to be a pirate, and she’s in the wrong ocean to be a slaver (very late design to be a slaver anyways). Oooh! Two days late and I have something to add!! Not that I’m necessarily on-board with the slaver idea (I know, bad pun), but I don’t think “wrong ocean” is a factor, given that there’s also a plane of Nigerian drug smugglers. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/239 "2005-05-20T13:34:01Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > So what’s with the black smoke? TCM is actually a steampunk device of some sort, and it has to build up steam before it can come chew on things. Or The Others are a buncha antisocial malcontents who can’t even stand each others’ company, and they only band together to drive out castaways, and it’s kinda like their bat signal. Or it took 40 days for the survivors of the crash of the tail section to … hey, wait a minute. In the pilot episode, didn’t they head off in search of the cockpit section because Kate said she saw smoke? This wouldn’t be the same direction, would it? And they didn’t find any burned stuff (no engines, no fuel to burn) at the cockpit crash site… ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/240 "2005-05-20T13:48:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Are there any valid ways a ship could end up in the middle of an island in the first place? Could a hurricane or cyclone throw a ship that size so far? Well, since the island is actually a large alien spacecraft, it would be a simply matter to sink it low enough in the water so that the entire island could then come up under the ship. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=13)