# Lost 1.23 "Exodus, Part One" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420 "2005-05-18T15:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/241 "2005-05-20T13:52:31Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > I will repeat an earlier request: that someone with a globe tape a string between Sydney and LA so we can figure out where they might be. My guess is that the Island sure as hell can’t be anything significant, size-wise. [Here](http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=syd-lax&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=outline&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=) ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/242 "2005-05-20T13:58:46Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > How could you tell it was an L-1011? I’d have thought the producers would make the model of the plane carefully nonspecific or fictional, just as they did with “Oceanic Air.” Would it surprise you to know that the plane itself has it’s own [website](http://www.l1011.homestead.com/Lst783.html)? > [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > I will repeat an earlier request: that someone with a globe tape a string between Sydney and LA so we can figure out where they might be. My guess is that the Island sure as hell can’t be anything significant, size-wise. I actually spent some time on this. The problem is, some of the things to work out. As I mentioned, the L-1011 doesn’t have the range to make that run. Max range for an L-1011 is around 7,500 kms. Sydney to L.A. is over 12,000. Secondly, the average cruise speed for an L-1011 is somewhere around 900kph. That makes the run only about 14 hours long, which is too short. I believe a figure of 16 or 17 hours has been mentioned. So, we don’t even really know where they were when the pilot turned the plane around. The pilot says: “Six hours out we lost communications. We turned back to Fiji. By the time we hit the turbulence, we were a thousand miles off course.” So we can guess that he means they were 1,000 miles from their flight path, but we don’t know what speed the plane was flying at before deviating from it’s flight path. That’s the biggest variable. That makes a lot of ocean to look in. Either way, have a look at the area. Fiji’s easily the biggest thing out there. Everything else is small islands and barnacle covered UFO’s. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/243 "2005-05-20T14:00:33Z")
Add the fact that CFL and crew were 6 days out of Tahiti when the storm hit. Not a lot of large landmasses in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/244 "2005-05-20T14:45:26Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I’ve always heard that one with Ilsa, not Inga. How common is Ilsa over there? Well, I just checked and last year a grand total of two girls were given the name Inga. In all of Sweden, there’s only one Ilsa alive. Maybe Casablanca has something to do with that. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/245 "2005-05-20T15:08:21Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > **In all of Sweden, there’s only one Ilsa alive.** So **she’s** the one responsible for that line! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/246 "2005-05-20T15:12:56Z")
And what about that other group that got castaway? They were only out on a three hour tour. A three hour tour. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/247 "2005-05-20T15:15:58Z")
One good scene that hasn’t been mentioned yet was when they were hiding from the invisible monter someone asked what it was. Danielle said, “it’s a security system” and everyone else looks at her thinking, “wow, that was a surprisingly lucid answer.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/248 "2005-05-20T15:53:02Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > **ivylass** - I’m not really upset, it’s just one of my pet peeves. As for the Inga issue, that someone mentioned… > I’m just so very, very tired of “Hello, my name is Inga. I am from Sveden”, which seems to be a meme that’s particulary hard to irradicate. Next to the Dutch, I think Danes, Norwegians and Swedish are the best non native English speakers in the world. The ratio of light blond, blue eyed, big boobed, tall, sex kittens among the female population is also amazingly small. What few there are tend to be named Jessica, Angelica, Michelle, Veronica, Marielle. Inga is not an option. [hijack]In the Dan Ackroyd/Eddie Murphy movie “Trading Places,” Jamie Lee Curtis is in disguise and introduces herself with almost the exact line, “Hello, I am Inga from Sveden.” Does it help to imagine that it might not be an ethnic slight but people quoting a line from a very funny movie?[/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/249 "2005-05-20T15:54:43Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > “Hello, I am Inga from Sveden.” Does it help to imagine that it might not be an ethnic slight but people quoting a line from a very funny movie?[/hijack] But … you’re wearing leiderhosen … I’m sorry, I couldn’t help it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/250 "2005-05-20T15:55:26Z")
“Ya, from Sveden.” ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/251 "2005-05-20T15:56:27Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > One good scene that hasn’t been mentioned yet was when they were hiding from the invisible monter someone asked what it was. Danielle said, “it’s a security system” and everyone else looks at her thinking, “wow, that was a surprisingly lucid answer.” “Yes, but what **IS** it?!!” (I was waiting for somebody else to cry out)… A giant robot T-Rex? One of those big mechanical spiders from “Wild Wild West”? The Iron Giant? A giraffe who has surpassed pissed-off and is now making his way into long-necked furiousness? Maybe it’s the X-large version of C-3PO. “I say, Mr. Locke, sir… Do you have the time?” ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/252 "2005-05-20T16:11:57Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > How could you tell it was an L-1011? I’d have thought the producers would make the model of the plane carefully nonspecific or fictional, just as they did with “Oceanic Air.” The “crashed aircraft” is actually a former Delta Air Lines L10-11 that was cut up and shipped to Hawaii. ([Look here, about halfway down the page.](http://lostsurvivors.com/)) The interiors are not from any aircraft; they are actually a soundstage somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/253 "2005-05-20T16:14:36Z")
And… How did I miss that **Dante** had already answered that. :smack: Oh well, my link is different. (Yeah… That’s it…) ---
**Author:** ![Skipper\_Too](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Skipper\_Too](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skipper_Too)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/254 "2005-05-20T16:43:53Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Sadly, with no gunports she’s unlikely to be a pirate, and she’s in the wrong ocean to be a slaver (very late design to be a slaver anyways). Wrong ocean for a Small Prop Airplane from Nigeria too! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/255 "2005-05-20T16:49:36Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > “Yes, but what **IS** it?!!” (I was waiting for somebody else to cry out)… I know, I know. Sometimes you just want to jump thru the TV screen, grab one of these guys by the neck and screem at them. How about “Have you ever seen it?” or “Why does the island need a security system?” or “How many of these things are there?” or… ALMOST ANYTHING!!! It’s going to be a long 5 days until Wednesday! ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/256 "2005-05-20T16:51:47Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Sadly, with no gunports she’s unlikely to be a pirate, and she’s in the wrong ocean to be a slaver (very late design to be a slaver anyways). Could it possibly have been a prison ship headed for Australia? Would they have sailed around South America and across the Pacific or around Africa and across the Indian Ocean? (When did England quit using Australia as a prison colony?) ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/257 "2005-05-20T16:53:31Z")
Oh, and there’s a shot where they’re standing around and Hurley is next to Shannon. She (without looking at him) pulls her jacket around herself covering her bare skin. Was Hurley trying to sneak a peek? ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/258 "2005-05-20T16:58:25Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > I actually spent some time on this. The problem is, some of the things to work out. As I mentioned, the L-1011 doesn’t have the range to make that run. Max range for an L-1011 is around 7,500 kms. Sydney to L.A. is over 12,000. > > Secondly, the average cruise speed for an L-1011 is somewhere around 900kph. That makes the run only about 14 hours long, which is too short. I believe a figure of 16 or 17 hours has been mentioned. Have you noticed Jack Shepard looks exactly like the actor, Matthew Fox? But Fox doesn’t have a medical degree and he’s married, while Jack is an unmarried surgeon. No problem here: Fox is an actor, _playing_ Jack the doctor. Clearly, the jet used for Oceanic Flight 815 is not an L-1011, because it was used in a way we know an L-1011 cannot be used. But an L-1011 _played_ the non-L-1011 used in the show. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/259 "2005-05-20T17:02:16Z")
> [@tanstaafl](#): > > Could it possibly have been a prison ship headed for Australia? Would they have sailed around South America and across the Pacific or around Africa and across the Indian Ocean? (When did England quit using Australia as a prison colony?) Did they ever stop? 🙂 That’s a good guess. England used several different dumping grounds for prisoners, including Georgia when it was a colony. But prison shipments to Australia went on, IIRC, until the mid 1800s. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/260 "2005-05-20T17:05:21Z")
> [@tanstaafl](#): > > Could it possibly have been a prison ship headed for Australia? Would they have sailed around South America and across the Pacific or around Africa and across the Indian Ocean? (When did England quit using Australia as a prison colony?) Transportees typically travelled around Africa and across the Indian Ocean to Australia. The last ship of involuntary settlers landed in 1852. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=14)