# Lost 1.23 "Exodus, Part One"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 18, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420 "2005-05-18T15:37:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/281 "2005-05-21T12:53:37Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Sawyer doesn’t have a hairy chest. His jeans were rather low around his hips. Glistening with sweat…mmmm.
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> …And did you notice when Danielle took off her shirt she had no underarm hair?..(Those little things bug me. I guess they can’t have the wimmen of the island getting all hairy and stuff.)

Nice double standard you’ve got going there.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/282 "2005-05-21T15:32:21Z")

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> [@Ellis Dee](#):
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> Nice double standard you’ve got going there.

😛

(I’m sure it was unintentional, tho)

One other nitpick: the clothes. How much luggage survived? Did only the women and the hot men find extra items in their size? Because everyone else is starting to look a little ratty. Okay, maybe it’s not a nit. Maybe the fat guys didn’t find enough that would fit, so their stuff is wearing out quicker. And all the thinner, smaller, shorter people can always fit into slightly off sized stuff, so they get a chance to rotate their outfits.

Blathering. Anyone else notice the clothig differences? Or is it all in my head?

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/283 "2005-05-21T17:11:38Z")

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I wondered about the clothes, too, but there was an episode where they were all dragging suitcases up on the beach - I think it was the second or third day they were there. Stuff was washing up on shore from wreckage out in the surf.  
They were sorting them out by luggage tags. I guess they went through the unclaimed ones and just took what they needed.  
What I wondered about was Lil’ Turniphead. What is he wearing? What about diapers?

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/284 "2005-05-21T17:20:40Z")

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He seems to be mostly wrapped in a blanket, we haven’t seen him out of it but I’d think they would make cloth ones somehow and wash them out in the sea. (Obviously, if they really were marooned this would be the thing to do… of course he’s probably just wearing regular diapers and it’s hidden in his swaddling.)

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/285 "2005-05-21T18:25:06Z")

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I kinda hope that next week, we’ll find out that the castaways had previously stumbled upon a crate full of razors and shaving cream. That would explain a lot.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/286 "2005-05-22T00:34:31Z")

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I’m guessing there might have been some razors and shaving cream in the luggage. Heck, in the first episode, Boone managed to find 815 pens in about 10 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/287 "2005-05-22T04:13:06Z")

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> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> I will repeat an earlier request: that someone with a globe tape a string between Sydney and LA so we can figure out where they might be. My guess is that the Island sure as hell can’t be anything significant, size-wise.

Off to the public library today, with dental floss and scotch tape. The librarian gave me a funny look, asked if I really wanted a globe, and retrieved one from the preschoolers’ Story Room. (What, nobody else watches _ **Lost** _ and is curious about Great Circle routes between Australia and the USA?) I taped the floss between Sydney and L.A. The line goes almost directly over Fiji, so “being 1000 miles off-course”\* doesn’t make sense.  
So…  
Is there any reason not to fly a “Great Circle” direct route from Sydney to L.A.?  
Is there any plausible place the plane might have had a stopover at that would be way off the direct route to L.A.? (Hawaii is also very close to the direct route.)

\*Pilot: “The radio quit, so nobody knew where we were. We turned back to Fiji, and were 1000 miles off-course when we hit turbulence.” (I’m guessing he was referring to the transponder.)

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/288 "2005-05-22T04:27:37Z")

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> [@Flutterby](#):
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> He seems to be mostly wrapped in a blanket, we haven’t seen him out of it but I’d think they would make cloth ones somehow and wash them out in the sea.

They should use the dirty cloth diapers to booby trap the perimeter of the camp. After all… the Others are coming.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/289 "2005-05-22T20:35:53Z")

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It bothers me that no one asked Sawyer to reveal the location of his stash. Afterall, they’ve needed stuff from it at least a half-dozen times already, and if Sawyer’s GONE…

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/290 "2005-05-23T13:49:47Z")

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Ok, first off, to anyone who missed last week’s episode. It will be reshown on Tuesday before the big finale.

Now a comment on the diaper issue

I know this is stretching it, but there could have been another baby on the flight, that baby’s diaper bag '9or spare diapers) wern’t destroyed in the crash. Figuring Claire would need them, they were kept. So TH has diapers. (ok, I’m rationalizing here)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/291 "2005-05-23T14:06:49Z")

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They could use galley towells and lemon scented hot towells and all the other towells on board an international jumbo jet as reuseable diapers.

Lesson? Always know where your towell is.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/292 "2005-05-23T15:22:42Z")

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Anyone remember terry towelling nappies?

All Clare needs are some rectangles of cloth (say a beach towel cut into quarters or several hand towels) and a big pot of boiling water to wash the soiled ones.

I’d imagine that she could come by those among the luggage.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/293 "2005-05-23T15:59:52Z")

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> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> Is there any reason not to fly a “Great Circle” direct route from Sydney to L.A.?

I could be wrong, but if you have to cross the equator, ISTM that the direct course is the shortest course–, there is not 'great circle" as when you stay in either the Norther or Sourther hemisphere.

> [@](#):
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> Is there any plausible place the plane might have had a stopover at that would be way off the direct route to L.A.? (Hawaii is also very close to the direct route.)

Yes. Hawaii would make sense, but I’m not even sure if that is within the range of an L1011.

Did they ever say how much flight time had expired before they turned back? That would be an important data point.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/294 "2005-05-23T16:08:12Z")

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So, any bets on how long it’ll take before they start resorting to cannibalism?

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/295 "2005-05-23T16:12:15Z")

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“Start?” I deeply suspect Shannon is no stranger to having Sayid’s meat in her mouth.

Yum! It’s Arab-tasting!

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/296 "2005-05-23T17:21:01Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> I could be wrong, but if you have to cross the equator, ISTM that the direct course is the shortest course–, there is not 'great circle" as when you stay in either the Norther or Sourther hemisphere.

I have no idea what this means. If you look at a globe, you’ll see that the Great Circle route IS the shortest route. In every case.

The only reason I can think of not to use a Great Circle route is if it would violate the airspace of a country that doesn’t allow such a flyover. IANAP or ATC, of course.

> [@](#):
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> Yes. Hawaii would make sense, but I’m not even sure if that is within the range of an L1011.

I thought we’d agreed the plane wasn’t an L-1011?

**Askia** , that’s a tremendously tacky thing to say.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/297 "2005-05-23T17:28:24Z")

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**Fiver.** Which part was tacky? “Meat in her mouth” or “Arab-tasting?”

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/298 "2005-05-23T17:34:50Z")

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I was just watching some shows on ABC last night, and for some reason they were showing the LOST season finale promos with more detail than what we were given last Wednesday. I saw Danielle asking to hold the baby, and then they cut to the scene of Claire screaming, “She took my baby!”

Of course, it could have been just some clever editing to tantalize us. We’ll know soon.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/299 "2005-05-23T18:02:21Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I was just watching some shows on ABC last night, and for some reason they were showing the LOST season finale promos with more detail than what we were given last Wednesday.  
> Of course, it could have been just some clever editing to tantalize us. We’ll know soon.

Also:

Hurley sees the numbers on the hatch

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/300 "2005-05-23T18:14:10Z")

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> [@Fiver](#):
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> The only reason I can think of not to use a Great Circle route is if it would violate the airspace of a country that doesn’t allow such a flyover.

Another reason would be to take advantage of prevailing wind currents.

Oh, and to avoid flying off the edge of the earth.

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