# Lost 1.23 "Exodus, Part One" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420 "2005-05-18T15:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/161 "2005-05-19T19:03:36Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I asked this, and got it on the list of “Lost Questions,”…“they’ve been drawn in by a huge predatory being that camoflages itself as a land mass!” or something similar proposed as an explanation. 🙂 I think this ambiguity may point to ‘whatever’ this location IS being important to why things are the way they are. From the writer’s standpoint I can see why they keep skirting the issue, but it sure makes the castaways look like a bunch of idiots. In next week’s episode the raft sails back the day after it left and the crew reports there is a hotel a little ways up the beach. 🙂 Seriously though, they’ve organized the manpower to build two rafts. A few people could have done a little recon. Like following one of these rivers they keep crossing to it’s source. That would clear up the island/not an island debate in a hurry. -rainy And speaking of the raft, what are those makeshift pontoons supposedly made from…they sure look like pontoons camoflaged to look makeshift. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/162 "2005-05-19T19:07:46Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > For those asking for a detailed summary: > > [http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/23.html](http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/23.html) Holy crap! There’s stuff in there that was no part of any episode I watched! Sample: > [@](#): > > Back at the beach, Claire asks Rousseau how she knows her. She can’t place it, but she knows they have met before. But that’s impossible, and Rousseau says as much. Claire tells her about Ethan kidnapping her, that she escaped, but she can’t remember how. Rousseau ignores her and busies herself with the new hiking boots she has obviously liberated from the camp. Something seems to click inside Claire. “You saved me, didn’t you? That’s why I remember you, you saved me from him.” Rousseau gives a quick look to Claire and then to the baby. “We have never met.” And with that she walks away. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/163 "2005-05-19T19:08:01Z")
Oh, forget the 40 days thing. The diary says it’s day 43. Still an interesting choice for ep title, given all the other title’s possible double meanings. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/164 "2005-05-19T19:09:55Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Holy crap! There’s stuff in there that was no part of any episode I watched! > > Sample: Holy crap indeed! I wonder if they goofed and added part II to the synopsis? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/165 "2005-05-19T19:14:34Z")
> [@rainy](#): > > And speaking of the raft, what are those makeshift pontoons supposedly made from…they sure look like pontoons camoflaged to look makeshift. Parts of the 747’s wing? Or maybe the auxilary pontoon landing gear that are standard equipment for jumbo jets on ocean routes? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/166 "2005-05-19T19:22:19Z")
Ooooh! I so hope that the \*Black Rock \* is a pirate ship. Pirates are sweet. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/167 "2005-05-19T19:35:16Z")
P’raps t’ _Black Rock_ is really t’ _Black Pearl_ ? “Thanks, Jack. We named the doctor Jack.” ;j ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/168 "2005-05-19T19:36:56Z")
LOST is on ABC. ABC is owned by Disney. I would flip if they got Depp on the Island somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/169 "2005-05-19T19:41:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I would flip if they got Depp on the Island somehow. You have to be nice to the TCM, savvy? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/170 "2005-05-19T19:44:34Z")
Next week’s radar blip, I bet it’s the TCM on giant sea turtles, controlling them with a rope of hair. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/171 "2005-05-19T19:50:38Z")
OK, I had time to rewatch this episode (and the ending of “Numbers”): 1. The numbers were on the hatch. You could clearly see the window and the area around it that had been dug. (this from “Numbers”). 2. I freeze framed it on the Black Rock, and although there is lettering below the name, I can’t make it out. Looks like one fairly long word which, I assume, is the city of origin. 3. I’m no expert on ships, but that ship looks 18th century (ore earlier) to me, not 19th century. 4. I saw the cameraman in the raft scene. On my TV (widescreen, HD) I could only see about half of it, just at the very right edge of the picture. 5. In the previews for next week, it sounded like Claire said “he took my baby”. 6. Also in the peviews, when Jack opens the hatch, he sees a skeleton with its wrists in irons, bound to a long chain running horizontially (which, I’m assuming we’re supposed to think means there are other skeletons chained to it, too). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/172 "2005-05-19T19:54:45Z")
So…the radar blip is the Nautilus, they are really on The Mysterious Island, and the Black Rock is a slave ship. And Jules Verne wrote a story called “The Master of the World” which features a Black Rock Creek… It’s going to be a looooooong summer! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/173 "2005-05-19T19:56:51Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Come on, she’s been on the island for 16 years, she’s French, and she has clean underarms? Irritation pt. 1 Why do Americans presume that European women don’t shave under their arms? You might as well ask why the rest of the women, who’s been there for 40 odd days, still have silky smooth legs and and no under arm hair, while the men have the exact same stubble, week after week. > [@msmith537](#): > > hot Swedeish girls. “For vhy no one come to our campfire…ya?” Irritation pt. 2 No one’s named their baby girl Inga for at least 50 years. Swedish females are _not_ named Inga. Swedish people don’t end all sentences with a “ya” as an affirmative. Some people do have a problem with w and v, but it’s more common with Germans - since in German, a v makes an f sound a a w makes a v sound. Ahem. They really packed a lot of stuff into this episode, didn’t they. However, my sick mind couldn’t help but wonder if they are on Pitcairn. :shudder: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/174 "2005-05-19T20:01:33Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Holy crap! There’s stuff in there that was no part of any episode I watched! > > Sample: And we now know what sound the monster makes: > [@](#): > > …MGGGRRRWWWRRRRRRRR!.. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/175 "2005-05-19T20:14:20Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > 1. Also in the peviews, when Jack opens the hatch, he sees a skeleton with its wrists in irons, bound to a long chain running horizontially (which, I’m assuming we’re supposed to think means there are other skeletons chained to it, too). This supports theories that the Black Rock could have been a slaver ship. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/176 "2005-05-19T20:17:09Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > Irritation pt. 1 > Why do Americans presume that European women don’t shave under their arms? You might as well ask why the rest of the women, who’s been there for 40 odd days, still have silky smooth legs and and no under arm hair, while the men have the exact same stubble, week after week. Chill, babe. In earlier threads I have also noticed the lack of pit fur on Shannon and Kate. And we haven’t seen close shots of their legs, so I can’t comment on that either. So we’re on the same page, it’s just on this episode, Danielle was the only one to lift her arms over her head while she was taking of her shirt, so I noticed it. (or lack thereof) As to the French comment, it was an unfortunate stereotype and I apologize for it. But she has been there for 16 years, and I assume too busy hiding from the Others to sharpen rocks for razors. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/177 "2005-05-19T20:24:37Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > Irritation pt. 2 > No one’s named their baby girl Inga for at least 50 years. I don’t think anyone said Inga. Or did you just need to get that off your chest? 🙂 For those of you wondering if they are really on an island, a plane’s flight path from Sydney to L.A. doesn’t usually fly over any significant land mass between the two. It’s pretty much a straight line. IIRC, they were 6 hours out of Sydney when they turned around after losing radio communications (major violation, BTW). Not sure how long after they turned around that everything went kaboom, but I seem to remember the pilot saying they were 1,000 miles off course. If you check [The Great Circle Mapper](http://gc.kls2.com/) you can get an idea of the range they might be in. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@shadowfax33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shadowfax33)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/178 "2005-05-19T20:25:21Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > You can have Sawyer. I’d rather watch a shirtless Jin building a raft. All the time. 😃 Maybe we could have Sawyer, Jin, Jack, Sayid, Boone (yeah, I know he’s dead, but he’s so \*pretty! \* And this is the magic island) all building a raft and chopping bamboo while shirtless and sweaty. Add in cute lil’ Charlie strumming his guitar and singing, while Hurley (fully clad) makes funny comments, and I think ABC has got themselves another hit! 😃 My SO claims there are some good-lookin’ women on this island, too. Perhaps they could get their own show. They could sun themselves on the beach, wearing string bikinis. And just flip over every once in a while. I noticed tonight that even some of the redshirts are quite easy on the eyes. Man, I have _never_ been on a plane with so many pretty people. Woo-hoo! ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@shadowfax33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shadowfax33)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/179 "2005-05-19T20:26:36Z")
Add Michael to the sweaty, shirtless list. Please. I’m so sorry. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420/180 "2005-05-19T20:36:46Z")
> [@shadowfax33](#): > > Maybe we could have Sawyer, Jin, Jack, Sayid, Boone (yeah, I know he’s dead, but he’s so \*pretty! \* And this is the magic island) all building a raft and chopping bamboo while shirtless and sweaty. I’ll sure watch that show. They could call the sweaty-hunk spinoff “Lust.” 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-23-exodus-part-one/304420.md?page=10)