# Lost 1.24/1.25: "Exodus, Part Two" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300 "2005-05-24T18:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/321 "2005-05-28T07:47:56Z")
**Monstre** , It is my own personal theory that there are **two** monsters on the island. One is the creature that is mentioned on that page. The other is the biomechanical thing that is underground. What Locke saw in that early episode was the first creature, that’s why he wasn’t scared and said it was beautiful. The second time, it was the underground thing. The first creature might have been a Megatherium, which is elephant size. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/322 "2005-05-28T12:24:46Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > or egrets… egrets…I’ve had a few. But then again, too few to mention. [![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/RikWriter/Egret_with_Mouthful_Close_up_small.jpg) ](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/RikWriter/Egret_with_Mouthful_Close_up_small.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/323 "2005-05-28T13:17:44Z")
A spoiler of clarification from TV Guide (it deals with the Finale, but should be a spoiler) Regarding the debate about whether or not we were supposed to see what was wrapped around Locke’s leg, JJ did say that in the finale, we get to see “part” of the island’s monster. Take that for what you will. He could be talking about the rope-like thing somebody spotted, or the wisps of black smoke… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/324 "2005-05-28T13:51:48Z")
> [@kimera](#): > > **Monstre** , It is my own personal theory that there are **two** monsters on the island. > > One is the creature that is mentioned on that page. The other is the biomechanical thing that is underground. What Locke saw in that early episode was the first creature, that’s why he wasn’t scared and said it was beautiful. The second time, it was the underground thing. The first creature might have been a Megatherium, which is elephant size. I don’t know that a Giant Sloth would be called beautiful. Interesting - yes, fascinating - sure, amazing - youbetcha, but beautiful? Unless Locke is a really hard core naturalist who’s been searching for a Giant Sloth all his life, I don’t think that he’d describe it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/325 "2005-05-28T14:29:23Z")
So… if it’s a big giant stompy crushy killer robot / animal security system… and maybe it’s invisible like **NoClueBoy** speculates… then what are those tendrils of smokiness? - an oil leak? - gaseous _ahem_ emissions? - some sort of camoflage system? Man, this is gonna be a long summer… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/326 "2005-05-28T15:31:27Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > A spoiler of clarification from TV Guide (it deals with the Finale, but should be a spoiler) > > Regarding the debate about whether or not we were supposed to see what was wrapped around Locke’s leg, JJ did say that in the finale, we get to see “part” of the island’s monster. Take that for what you will. He could be talking about the rope-like thing somebody spotted, or the wisps of black smoke… then again, it also said we’d be seeing alot more of arzt. Unless they meant lots more seperate pieces of arzt. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/327 "2005-05-28T15:44:51Z")
> [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](#): > > then again, it also said we’d be seeing alot more of arzt. Unless they meant lots more seperate pieces of arzt. That’s the problem with prophesy…it’s always open to interpretation. We **did** see a lot more of Arzt. We saw his spleen, his lungs, his lower colon, his… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/328 "2005-05-28T16:02:59Z")
Isn’t the character’s name ARNST, not ARZT? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/329 "2005-05-28T16:06:30Z")
> [@unwashed brain](#): > > Isn’t the character’s name ARNST, not ARZT? Nope. He spelled it for us. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/330 "2005-05-28T16:07:00Z")
> [@unwashed brain](#): > > Isn’t the character’s name ARNST, not ARZT? No. It’s Leslie Arzt. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/331 "2005-05-28T20:38:19Z")
> [@unwashed brain](#): > > Isn’t the character’s name ARNST, not ARZT? Hurley kept erroneously putting in the N, much to the man’s annoyance. ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/332 "2005-05-28T20:40:24Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Late to the thread, just watched it. I only have one burning question. What’s up with Sawyer’s hair? > > I find myself more and more distracted by this. What’s Sawyer’s hair going to do this week??? > > I know his hair is kinda long, but now he has it tied back. Was it really long enough to do that? > > It just seems like Sawyer’s hair is the only hair on the island that changes. It seems to me that Jin’s hair is getting curly now that it’s growing longer. Funny, I had thought that most Asians had coarse, straight hair that is hard to curl and resists frizz. Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/333 "2005-05-28T20:55:22Z")
The key word there being “most”. Not all Asians have straight hair. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/334 "2005-05-28T21:01:13Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That’s the problem with prophesy…it’s always open to interpretation. We **did** see a lot more of Arzt. We saw his spleen, his lungs, his lower colon, his… “Um, dude… you’ve got some… Arnzt… on you.” ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/335 "2005-05-28T22:12:58Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Nope. He spelled it for us. 😃 Spilled. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/336 "2005-05-28T23:28:20Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > egrets…I’ve had a few. But then again, too few to mention. > > [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/RikWriter/Egret\_with\_Mouthful\_Close\_up\_small.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/RikWriter/Egret_with_Mouthful_Close_up_small.jpg) What the heck does he have in his mouth? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/337 "2005-05-29T01:38:42Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > What the heck does he have in his mouth? A bug of some kind. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/338 "2005-05-29T02:18:56Z")
Anyone notice that the three people whose name Hurley couldn’t get straight are all dead? Some magic traditions hold that knowing something’s true name gives you power over it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/339 "2005-05-29T02:40:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Finally, to those calling Lost the second coming of Twin Peaks. Wait to be disappointed until they actually disappoint you. Don’t get disappointed because you FEAR disappointment. It’s not a healthy way to live. It is like dumping a girl who has been nothing but good to you because you fear losing her. I did wait. I’ve begun suspecting the show wasn’t going to be able to deliver weeks ago. But I figured it was only fair to give them an entire season because it was possible they would bring it all home in the finale. They didn’t. So I’m no longer worried about being disappointed or expecting to be disappointed or fearing I’ll be disappointed. I now have been disappointed. And I see no reason, other than a fear of not being part of the crowd, not to express my opinion. To use your metaphor, if you’re in a relationship with a girl who does nothing but abuse you, you’re in denial if you think you should stick it out because she’ll change. Or maybe we should realize this is just a TV show and relationship metaphors don’t apply. Anyway, I think a lot of people misunderstood my comparison with _Twin Peaks_. I wasn’t saying that _Twin Peaks_ failed to answer the questions it raised - as I wrote, I didn’t really watch the series much, so I don’t know if it did or didn’t. The comparison I was making was that _Twin Peaks_ was a huge phenomenon one year and then, when it took a break, its audience suddenly shook itself awake and collectively said, “what was that all about?” and 90% of them never watched the second season. I’m predicting a similar fate for _Lost_. It’s definitely a phenomenon and it’s been riding on a huge wave of fandom. But I think the three months delay before the second season is going to kill its popularity. No matter what happens, the second season opener is going to disappoint the fans - no episode could live up to what people’s expectations will be. And then as the season goes along, viewers are going to start getting bored or frustrated. Plus they’re will be the inevitable backlash - some of the same people who love the show now will want to denounce it next year. But my opinion of the show’s overall popularity is distinct from my own personal opinion of the show. Ironically, with my expectations diminished, I may end up enjoying next season more than many others will. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/340 "2005-05-29T05:46:39Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Anyone notice that the three people whose name Hurley couldn’t get straight are all dead? Some magic traditions hold that knowing something’s true name gives you power over it. Don’t know what you’re trying to say here. Arzt’s name is the only one Hurley has had trouble with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=18)