# Lost 1.24/1.25: "Exodus, Part Two" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300 "2005-05-24T18:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/381 "2005-06-01T19:43:08Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Hmm…okay, just plain Boat People and not Boat People Minus Danielle, then. > > Besides that single character’s guess, do we have any reason to believe it’s actually a slave ship and not an Australia-Bound prison ship? > > Also, is there any way to find out if the dynamite was already on the ship or if Danielle put it there? > > -Joe The ship had mining tools on it. I remember seeing some sort of corkscrew digging device, and the dynamite fits in terms of being a mining tool. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/382 "2005-06-01T19:46:51Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > (c.f. The ubiquitous “Mulder, can you drop everything and drive over here, I think you out to see this instead of my simply explaining it on the telephone.” that we saw on the XFiles.) And Star Trek. “Captain, there’s something you should see in the transporter room.” - “What is it?” - “Just come and look.” When you’re conditioned to look for it, you find it in pretty much every other episode. With procedures that sloppy, it’s no wonder the ship keeps getting taken over. ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/383 "2005-06-01T20:23:25Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Small problem : he wasn’t **in** Exodus Part 3, even if credited. So this is a joke, or he was edited out and will show up next season. Or else he was one of the obscured figures on the boat… ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/384 "2005-06-01T20:56:38Z")
There are two men whom we don’t get a good look at in the boat, and I’m 99.9% sure Samuel L. Jackson’s not either of them. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/385 "2005-06-01T22:07:08Z")
Samuel L. Jackson? Where was he? ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/386 "2005-06-01T22:11:19Z")
According to a listing at [imdb.com](http://imdb.com), Sam the Man was supposed to have a role in the finale as a character named “Bernard.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/387 "2005-06-01T22:22:52Z")
IMDb data is submitted by the unwashed hordes and added to the database after barely a cursory review by overworked staffers. It’s pretty far from official. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/388 "2005-06-02T01:24:31Z")
Hell, even _ **I** _ have submitted stuff the IMDb accepted. ---
**Author:** ![Novalyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@Novalyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novalyne)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/389 "2005-06-02T02:16:22Z")
Now that we know Walt is the boy wanted by the Others, what to make of the psychic’s insistence that Claire had to be the one to raise her baby alone (or risk disaster)? Misdirection, or could we have 2 special children? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/390 "2005-06-02T03:14:48Z")
> [@Novalyne](#): > > Now that we know Walt is the boy wanted by the Others, what to make of the psychic’s insistence that Claire had to be the one to raise her baby alone (or risk disaster)? Misdirection, or could we have 2 special children? Or maybe the reason she has to be the one to raise him have less to do with what would happen to the child and more to do with what would happen to Claire? ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/391 "2005-06-02T03:17:34Z")
No. The psychic was very clear that it was in the baby’s best interest to be raised by Claire. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/392 "2005-06-02T03:27:45Z")
I didn’t see that episode… but maybe the psychic saw something if she ended up with Charlie? (Thinking of the statue here…) ---
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/393 "2005-06-02T03:29:11Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > If time does shift around on different points on the island – well, there’s the built-in rationale for Walt’s “accelerated” aging right there. WTF…I thought I was keeping up, but “Walt’s ‘accelerated’ aging?” What’s the deal? I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Please give me something to add to my summer-wild speculation about LOST-exhile. -rainy ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/394 "2005-06-02T03:39:37Z")
We’ve all watched the show for the last eight months, right? Well, in the show’s time frame, they’ve only been there a few weeks. Now the actor playing Walt is a growing pre-teen. He’s growth rate will shoot up soon. By the end of next season he’ll have aged two years in real time while the show’s timetable is less than a year old. Unless they start skipping chunks of time next season. But different “zones” on the island where things grow faster then Walt aging rapidly could explain this. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/395 "2005-06-02T03:40:52Z")
> [@rainy](#): > > WTF…I thought I was keeping up, but “Walt’s ‘accelerated’ aging?” > > What’s the deal? I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Please give me something to add to my summer-wild speculation about LOST-exhile. Probably the way that the actor will have aged a year, but the time elapsed in the show is less than 2 months. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/396 "2005-06-02T03:54:52Z")
Maybe Walt will be like Bean, Ender’s shadow, and will be 9 feet tall when Season II starts! That would be so cool… ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/397 "2005-06-02T04:42:35Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > … they discovered the special child was Walt and, discovering (somehow) that he would be on the raft when it sailed, they decided to wait till then to take him. Alternatively, they were on their way to the island to take Walt when they fortuitously discovered the raft. ---
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/398 "2005-06-02T13:48:24Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > By the end of next season he’ll have aged two years in real time while the show’s timetable is less than a year old. Whew, okay…I thought I had completely missed something (plot-wise) during the season. As a matter of fact I was rewatching the pilot episode last night thinking…“Hmmm, he does look kinda younger.” Good observation. I bet that’s a pain for producers working with kids in that age range. -rainy ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/399 "2005-06-02T14:41:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*Novalyne: \*\*Now that we know Walt is the boy wanted by the Others, what to make of the psychic’s insistence that Claire had to be the one to raise her baby alone (or risk disaster)? Misdirection, or could we have 2 special children? > **RikWriter:** Or maybe the reason she has to be the one to raise him have less to do with what would happen to the child and more to do with what would happen to Claire? > **Askia:** No. The psychic was very clear that it was in the baby’s best interest to be raised by Claire. > **Flutterby:** I didn’t see that episode… but maybe the psychic saw something if she ended up with Charlie? (Thinking of the statue here…) I apologize for the lengthy re-quoting, but it puts my following comments in context. I believe that Walt is the only “special” child on the island, and that the Others don’t even know he has certain “talents”. The only other logical conclusion would be that Alex _and_ Aaron _and_ Walt are all “special”. I don’t think that is the case. I think that the Others, for reasons yet to be disclosed, simply want children. Not necessarily special children. I don’t think the psychic has any concerns about Charlie, for after all, he specifically sent her on this particular flight presumably because he “saw” that it would crash on the island, allowing Claire to raise the baby safely. On the other hand the pyschic didn’t “see” the Others as a threat, in which case it might have been a very bad mistake for him to send Claire to the island. As for the island itself, as others have noted, there are an awful lot of marooned people on this island: the Oceanic flight, the Nigerian smugglers, Adam and Eve, the CFL and her team of researchers, the Black Rock. (Perhaps the Others are also marooned?) In addition, could the TCM security system of nanites (is that the term we’re using for the black cloudlike phenomenon?) be to protect extraterrestials who are also marooned? Of course, all this only leads deeper into the mystery of what is drawing all these people to the island in the first place. I personally kind of like the Bermuda Triangle style theory. I don’t think the island itself is sentient or magical. I think Locke is self-delusional in this regard. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/400 "2005-06-02T16:18:35Z")
The more I watch, the more it does seem like some of the Bermuda Triangle theories I read when younger. Especially with all the people/evidence of previous people being found on the island. That doesn’t say there aren’t aliens or something hiding there (even some group of future humans) which put in the hatch and set up TCM. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=21)