# Lost 1.24/1.25: "Exodus, Part Two" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300 "2005-05-24T18:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/101 "2005-05-26T01:55:54Z")
In my book, this is the best TV in about a dozen years. Superb acting, good stories, even the ones that make me homicidal with unrequited curiosity. A near perfect blend of characters that seem at first to be over the top, but get deeper almost by the minute. Why couldn’t Bergama and Lucas do it like this!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/102 "2005-05-26T01:57:23Z")
I’m disappointed that the boat that found Walt, his bad and sayer and Jin was full of Waterworld rejects. I was sure it was going to be Rover from The Prisoner. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/103 "2005-05-26T01:58:46Z")
BTW, a huge, hearty hand for all the **Lost Dopers**. You have made this fantastic show all the more enjoyable. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/104 "2005-05-26T01:58:56Z")
Now… Locke. (“We’re going to have a Locke problem after this…”) So, I see two possibilities: 1. He’s right, and his faith in the island and whatever it brought them there for is going to be the thing to sustain them all. 2. The island is using him to open the hatch and unleash the forces of darkness, and he has made the grave mistake of blindly placing his faith in the island. So… which is it? ---
**Author:** ![ElectricZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@ElectricZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectricZ)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/105 "2005-05-26T02:00:24Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Re: Walt … holy crap, did I see [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088&page=2&pp=50) coming a few weeks ago, or what? And yet, I was _still_ stunned. Crap on a stick, people. _Crap on an **ever-lovin’ stick**._ I tip my hat to you, Rockle – it didn’t hit me until Sayid and Charlie ran into Danielle and Turnip Head at the beachside cookout. Who’s your daddy NOW, Walt? 😃 EZ ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/106 "2005-05-26T02:01:06Z")
Annnnnsweeeeeeers! Annnnnnsweeeers! We need juicy, delicious, braaaaai-uh, aaaaaaanswers! In other words: aaaaaaaaaaaaaah! How many more months are we going to have to wait again? Fan-tab-ulous capper for an all-around excellent series. I loved the closing sequence on the plane, especially all of the little touches: Jin’s watch, Sayid being watched suspiciously, Hurley reading the polar bear comic book. > [@ElectricZ](#): > > Was it me, or was the boat person who tossed the molotov/bomb onto the survivor’s raft a youngish lady? > > Maybe 16 years old, with French ancestry…? It wasn’t you - I thought it was CFL for a moment. Alex could be a girl’s name; does anyone remember if CFL has ever said “my son” or “he”? ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/107 "2005-05-26T02:01:35Z")
Anyone else think the blonde girl who firebombed the raft was Alex? She showed too briefly to get an accurate bead on her age, but I’m suspicious. As for our trio of sailors–what are the chances any of them makes it back? 15 miles from shore, a burning raft, a fresh gunshot–it doesn’t look good. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/108 "2005-05-26T02:01:47Z")
“dad and Sawyer” ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/109 "2005-05-26T02:01:48Z")
You know, I was just thinking “Artz is an ass. I would really hate for him to be a regular next season” BOOM!!! Maybe I got some of Walt’s powers? Ok, so if they Others want Walt, why did they kidnap Claire? Are there two other groups? Was Ethan working alone and just wanted Claire? Do they have some prophecy of a child and are not sure which of the kids they want? And what was Hurley doing with a Spanish comic? Does he speak spanish? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/110 "2005-05-26T02:03:58Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > And what was Hurley doing with a Spanish comic? Does he speak spanish? He’s Latino. I don’t remember if we’ve ever heard him speak Spanish but it’s not unreasonable to think he has some familiarity with the language. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/111 "2005-05-26T02:04:18Z")
Oh, and Locke saying “Hope” was inside the hatch creeped me out completely. Anyone familiar with the Pandora’s Box fable knows what else was kept with hope and no way do I think Locke was ignorant of the implication. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/112 "2005-05-26T02:05:11Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Possible new questions for **Trion** > > Boat people = Others? > > Why do they want Walt? > > Is Sawyer dead? > > Is Alex dead or something worse? > > Will Steve and Francine (was it?) get jiggy? Go ahead and toss these in the appropriate thread. I’ll be cleaning things up sometime tomorrow. That was cool! Now what am I gonna do all summer?? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/113 "2005-05-26T02:05:59Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > And what was Hurley doing with a Spanish comic? Does he speak spanish? He’s Hispanic. He spoke Spanish to his grand dad during the news interview (I think I remember that right…) ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/114 "2005-05-26T02:06:57Z")
I must admit I only got into the show for the last half of the season, so I’ve had lots of ground to make up, but Locke is by far the most intriguing character I’ve ever met. He has the air of a religious man, the skills of a trained killer, the focus of a computer hacker, and the motivation of a desperate man given a second chance. I can’t decide who’s the main character anymore, I think Locke has stolen the show. I’ve always had a thing for symbolisms of character names, so here are two points I found interesting. Sayid - Muslim name for “Master” – Could this be from his control of the radio and his overall ability to handle just about any situation. And yet he is not a master of himself. He tortures the guy for the asthma medicine, leaves because of his shame (guilt?), meets CFL, then comes back and resumes kicking ass. John Locke - Well, he was a philosopher / writer back in the 1600s. Link to the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy: [http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/l/locke.htm](http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/l/locke.htm) ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/115 "2005-05-26T02:10:46Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > Anyone else think the blonde girl who firebombed the raft was Alex? She showed too briefly to get an accurate bead on her age, but I’m suspicious. Now that y’all have mentioned it, _ **yes** _. Alex was – _is?_ – CFL’s daughter, and the Others took her, and now she has taken Walt and killed Kenny. You bastard! Oh, wait … _anyway_, question which will bug me until the new season starts: If Walt knew that he had to get off the island like he told Michael last week, then how come he couldn’t tell that trouble would follow him? The HELL? Are his powers limited? By what or whom? _Aaaaaaargh!_ I have this horrible, terrible feeling that next season will begin with the “new regulars” and we’ll start back on Day One, somewhere on another part of the island, and we’ll have to go through this whole same month again but with new people, and _we won’t find out what really happened to Walt until the beginning of Season Three._ Would they _do_ that? Of course they would … god, I am _so_ this show’s bitch! ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/116 "2005-05-26T02:12:26Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Apologies if this has been asked before, I don’t always make it through the Lost threads every week. But does Abrams have some fascination with the number 47? I’ve been re-watching the first season of _Alias_ and 47 occurs a number of times, and it’s made a number of appearances on _Lost_ as well. Not really a Lost geek (my schedule kept me from watching) but yes, J.J. (and other writers) like to stick 47s everywhere. The tradition started out at Pomona College in CA, and its TV history dates back to Star Trek: The Next Generation. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/117 "2005-05-26T02:15:56Z")
Arzt was blown up into parzts! (bad pun time over). My wife asks “Did you see that?” Kate replied “Yes, I did see that.” 🆒 “Do not hit me again.” “This will not be pleasant.” Everything conspired in the first half to split the groups up. Everything conspired in the second half to bring them back together. Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that the boat people were the others. Not only did **Rockle** call it, but CFL hinted so when she realized the Others weren’t interested in the baby, but “in the boy.” TV moment! If Kate is so dangerous, why remove the chains from her as they’re boarding. Just keep them on her at all times. > [@](#): > > And what was Hurley doing with a Spanish comic? Does he speak spanish? That was the comic Walt was looking at after the crash… the one with the polar bear on the back. Sawyer ain’t dead - it’s just a flesh wound. Great episode! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/118 "2005-05-26T02:18:09Z")
I have a feeling that Season II will start with the BOP people, but will soon pan back to the Locke/Jack group. The numbers say so, don’t you know. Maybe one or two BOP only eps tops, then a mix, but maybe with still seperate groups. And still no visual on TCM. You never see the demon, til Him comes callin. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/119 "2005-05-26T02:19:41Z")
> [@ElectricZ](#): > > Was it me, or was the boat person who tossed the molotov/bomb onto the survivor’s raft a youngish lady? > > Maybe 16 years old, with French ancestry…? Definitely looked female, and youngish. I think you might be right! > [@jmizzou](#): > > It wasn’t you - I thought it was CFL for a moment. Alex could be a girl’s name; does anyone remember if CFL has ever said “my son” or “he”? Alex is a girl – that was revealed last week, when CFL identified Alex as her daughter. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/120 "2005-05-26T02:19:55Z")
I was thinking we would get the hatch opened and see our lostaways’ reactions as if we were in the hatch, without showing us anything of real substance. That we saw what was apparently an egress tunnel that extends far down into the earth eases the sting not even a little bit, with the summer stretching out endlessly before us. Lots of cliffhangers. If Season Two really does shift focus to the tail section survivors, I will grind my teeth to nubs if we don’t get _some_ answers. What happened to Sawyer? Will Locke now go off the deep end? How are the rafters gonna survive out on the ocean? Was that The Others that took Walt? Will Charlie start using again? Is CFL going to go off the deep end and prove a real and unpredictable danger? Is Sun’s father crazy enough to have his _own_ search party composed of deadly killers look for and _find_ the lostaways and/or Jin? Will Kate throw in with Locke and betray Jack at some point, especially if Locke tempts her with something he can provide and she wants? I echo the poster who thanked all of you for making the viewing of Lost this year a much better experience. Discussion is fun! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=7)