# Lost 1.24/1.25: "Exodus, Part Two" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300 "2005-05-24T18:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spectrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spectrum)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/141 "2005-05-26T04:13:27Z")
Now, is the notion of the tail section people being the focus next season just fan supposition, or is it based on something said by the show’s producers? Because I would hate that. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/142 "2005-05-26T04:13:46Z")
Jimmy Kimmel is on ABC now and is doing stuff on Lost – interviewing some cast members and such. He just asked Hurley, “Can I pee on your foot?” Then he revealed who TCM is. (It’s Cookie Monster!) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/143 "2005-05-26T04:20:30Z")
Lots of _ **Lost** _ on Jimmy Kimmel tonight! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/144 "2005-05-26T04:22:31Z")
Kimmel is interviewing Hurley and Michael. He’s asking if they will be back next season. Garcia (Hurley) says, “Well, I’m still standing at the end of the season.” Kimmel says to Perrineau (Michael): “And you’re drowning.” Perrineau: “Yeah, I’m in the middle of the ocean, I’m black, and I can’t swim…” ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/145 "2005-05-26T04:28:09Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > “dad and Sawyer” 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/146 "2005-05-26T04:31:31Z")
According to the Kimmel interview, the woman who Sawyer was bringing back to his hotel room (in episode 16 “Outlaws”), when Hibbs (T-2000) was waiting for him – that woman is Harold Perrineau’s real-life wife. And they said she was also the lottery drawing girl in episode 18 “Numbers”. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/147 "2005-05-26T04:39:50Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > I must admit I only got into the show for the last half of the season, so I’ve had lots of ground to make up, but Locke is by far the most intriguing character I’ve ever met. He has the air of a religious man, the skills of a trained killer, the focus of a computer hacker, and the motivation of a desperate man given a second chance. I can’t decide who’s the main character anymore, I think Locke has stolen the show. > > I’ve always had a thing for symbolisms of character names, so here are two points I found interesting. > > Sayid - Muslim name for “Master” – Could this be from his control of the radio and his overall ability to handle just about any situation. And yet he is not a master of himself. He tortures the guy for the asthma medicine, leaves because of his shame (guilt?), meets CFL, then comes back and resumes kicking ass. > > John Locke - Well, he was a philosopher / writer back in the 1600s. Link to the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy: [http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/l/locke.htm](http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/l/locke.htm) Could some kind soul gather the links for all the previous _ **Lost** _ threads and post them here as a response? **ronincyberpun** k needs to be brought up to speed so he/she can jump in and have fun, too. p.s. Helluva capsule description of Locke, **ronincyberpunk**. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/148 "2005-05-26T04:44:39Z")
J. J. Abrams is 19 years old??? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/149 "2005-05-26T04:49:35Z")
On Kimmel, they are talking about US! (okay, people like us…) He asked J.J. Abrams, “Okay, people online are talking about the show and coming up with theories. And some say you read these things and get your ideas there. Is this true?” Abrams jokes, “Oh yeah, we get all our stuff from there. It’s all stolen.” Then he says, “The thing is, the people on the internet are all smarter than anybody working on the show. It’s amazing, they come up with these complete working theories.” (Then Kimmel says, “Yeah, but they all live with their mothers…”) I am SO going to call his show and complain when mom is done with the phone… ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/150 "2005-05-26T04:51:18Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > J. J. Abrams is 19 years old??? [He’ll be 39 in June](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009190/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0xfHE9YWJyYW1zfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=2;ft=177;fm=1). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/151 "2005-05-26T04:55:20Z")
That hatch must be very fragile, because they didn’t tamp the dynamite. All that would do would be make a big scar on the hatch…without tamping, the force of the explosion is wasted! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/152 "2005-05-26T05:02:27Z")
They were going after the hinge specifically, so they placed one stick on each of three sides. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/153 "2005-05-26T05:02:47Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > But he’s in open water, fifteen miles from shore, in the dark, _bleeding_. I’m calling shark dismemberment, shall we start a pool? 🙂 Nah, I think they drift harmlessly back to the Island. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/154 "2005-05-26T05:11:24Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > Lots of cliffhangers. If Season Two really does shift focus to the tail section survivors, I will grind my teeth to nubs if we don’t get _some_ answers. Did I start this speculation, or is there some basis for it? (I speculated that Anna Lucia was too strong of a character for a one-off, and that the BOP people would figure in the next season.) > [@tripthicket](#): > > What happened to Sawyer? I echo the earlier responses: it’s merely a flesh wound. But, how the hell did the pirates know to shoot the one guy on the raft that had a gun? > [@tripthicket](#): > > Will Locke now go off the deep end? Jeez, isn’t he already in waters way over my head - how much further could he go? > [@tripthicket](#): > > How are the rafters gonna survive out on the ocean? My speculation: the wind will shift, and they will beach back on the Island. > [@tripthicket](#): > > Was that The Others that took Walt? Smart money is on “Yes”. > [@tripthicket](#): > > Will Charlie start using again? No way. He wanted the statuette of the Virgin Mary for the shrine he will soon be creating in the caves. 😃 > [@tripthicket](#): > > Is CFL going to go off the deep end and prove a real and unpredictable danger? I don’t think the Marianas Trench is deep enough for where CFL may be headed… > [@tripthicket](#): > > Is Sun’s father crazy enough to have his _own_ search party composed of deadly killers look for and _find_ the lostaways and/or Jin? I find this unlikely… > [@tripthicket](#): > > Will Kate throw in with Locke and betray Jack at some point, especially if Locke tempts her with something he can provide and she wants? Ooh, interesting thought. I could see this happening. > [@tripthicket](#): > > I echo the poster who thanked all of you for making the viewing of Lost this year a much better experience. Discussion is fun! Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/155 "2005-05-26T05:12:45Z")
WAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTT!!! NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Sorry, had to get that out of my system. Was anyone else getting the distinct vibe that Hurley was not, in fact, wanted on the plane? Everything was conspiring to keep him off. We’ve already established that he’s lucky at the expense of others. If he managed to thwart his luck and get on the plane anyway, maybe that’s a sign that he’ll be the one who manages to help everyone else. Either way, the suspense is going to kill me. Is it next season yet? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/156 "2005-05-26T05:14:49Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > I actually jumped when Arzt went BOOM. Me too. I damn near had a heart attack. And coming after a _ **24** _ finale, and a 90-minute _ **Shield** _, I really didn’t need that so early in the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/157 "2005-05-26T05:17:34Z")
Well, I’m going to be the one to say it: the Emperor isn’t wearing any clothes. The season’s over and the writers apparently still don’t know what’s happening. Or if they do, they’re not telling. Were any of the big questions that have been raised this season answered in the finale? Nope. I’m now mostly convinced that the writers are just winging it and have no clue where they’re going. Inventing mysteries is easy - the challenge is solving the mysteries. And there’s no evidence these guys are up to the challenge. Half of them are probably wishing the show would’ve bombed and been cancelled so they wouldn’t have to try and work their way out of the corner they’ve painted themselves into. My prediction for next season? The hype will die out over the summer and next season the viewers will realize how hollow the show is. It’ll be _Twin Peaks_ all over again. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/158 "2005-05-26T05:19:39Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Sun: “Aaron. What does the name mean?” > > Claire: “I don’t know…” My dictionary says “the exalted one”. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/159 "2005-05-26T05:22:34Z")
For whoever asked about how the Evil Boat People (EBP) knew to shoot the one guy on the raft with the gun, watch the first few moments after they meet up. In the celebrating, Sawyer turns around, lifts his arms, and Yahoos. As he does, the gun is clearly visible stuck in the back of his pants. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300/160 "2005-05-26T05:25:51Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > My prediction for next season? The hype will die out over the summer and next season the viewers will realize how hollow the show is. It’ll be _Twin Peaks_ all over again. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-24-1-25-exodus-part-two/305300.md?page=9)