# Lost 1.4 "Walkabout"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 13, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116 "2004-10-13T23:49:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/81 "2004-10-14T19:21:44Z")

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> [@Juniper200](#):
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> I think the guy on the other end of that call was the coworker with whom he played the war game during lunch, goofing around. A rendezvous at 1300 hours is about right for lunchtime.

Agreed. Especially since the way he checked to see if the line was secure was by simply _looking around himself_. That cracked me up completely. Then again, maybe I immediately jumped to that conclusion because my friends and I have been known, when planning a weekend getaway or an important event, to use codenames and pseudo-military-speak via phone and email. (“Cobra, this is Panther–rendezvous 0500 at location India-Hotel-Oscar-Papa for rations and prep before beginning Operation TripToMaine–Panther out.”)

Yeah, we’re total geeks.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/82 "2004-10-14T19:22:59Z")

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> [@Dooku](#):
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> No shit. I totally missed that. OK, then where did he get that suitcase full of knives? You certainly didn’t need some of those for “walkabout” - like the brass knuckle-blade combination.

No, you don’t need them, but he seems like the kind of guy who would bring them, imagining he was some kind of outback warrior.

I suspect that from the seriousness with which he took playing risk, and also the “dramatic entrance” of the knife.

“What are we going to hunt boar with?”

THHHHWACK! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/83 "2004-10-14T19:25:13Z")

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> [@Juniper200](#):
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> I think the guy on the other end of that call was the coworker with whom he played the war game during lunch, goofing around.

Also, didn’t Locke also call his board game opponent the same code-name as he used on the phone? C13 or something like that?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/84 "2004-10-14T19:28:20Z")

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> [@rainy](#):
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> PS - The producers have said no mystical answers but perhaps grounded in 'psuedo-science…???WTF???..wouldn’t Star Trek also be explanable through psuedo-science?

Yeah, that’s pretty much a non-statement. They could even all be “dead” and seeing “ghosts” within a psuedoscientific framework. Not technically mystical, but…

I don’t think they are dead though. How would post-crash deaths (like the air marshal) work?

On the other hand, “Lost” has a nice ambiguity in that sense.

Helen is a wierd name for a phone-sex operator-- unless she gave him a"real" name around the time they dropped the wank-script. I think she’s _probably_ a phone sex girl, but there’s an off-chance she might be a telephone psychic, too. An hourly rate sounds like it might work better for a 900 psychic line.

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**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/85 "2004-10-14T19:32:03Z")

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Someone from one of the Lost fic communities on Livejournal posted this look at Locke and Helen, and I thought some of your might find it interesting as well: [“Extra Charges May Apply”](http://www.livejournal.com/users/yahtzee63/121140.html)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/86 "2004-10-14T19:45:01Z")

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Now that’s a fan fic piece worth the read. Actually fits very well.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Sayid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jack\_Sayid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Sayid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/87 "2004-10-14T20:31:48Z")

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> [@rainy](#):
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> I think there is history between Kate and Sawyer. Maybe even she is taking the fall for a crime he committed. Things to consider
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> A - For Kate to be so quick to take the gun away from Sawyer in the interior of the island, she sure did give it back to him easily (I’m associating no on-screen scene to with no conflict) to put the Marshal out of his misery.  
> \*\*Just for reference, if I’m ever in poor condition on an island, dont shoot me,  
> I’ll be hoping to the last to make a recovery in a hospital somewhere
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> B - Right before the ‘mercy killing’ Kate and Sawyer were all alone in that area where Kate was trying to build the fire and she seemed very at ease, even as she stacked firewood with the pistol hanging sexily out the back of her pants and Sawyer milled around behind her.
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> C - Last night’s episode (10/13) showed Sawyer acting protective of her in the scary moments when the wild boars invaded the beach
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> This theory would account for a couple of things; why Kate seems to be such a darn nice girl to be handcuffed by a Marshal and also why Sawyer was so quick to do the ‘mercy killing’ he botched so badly.

Could be…That would help explain [this](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=16&pos=26) picture from next week’s episode.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/88 "2004-10-14T20:50:05Z")

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> [@Jack Sayid](#):
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> Could be…That would help explain [this](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=16&pos=26) picture from next week’s episode.
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> :eek:

SPOILER ABOVE!!!

I wish I didn’t know about that site. Those stills reveal all sorts of things. Especially [this](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=topn&cat=0&pos=18) one. And [this](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=topn&cat=0&pos=28) one.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/89 "2004-10-14T20:53:25Z")

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Cool pics.  
I think [this character](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=16&pos=4) is going to be an interesting watch in the next few eps. I swear, I was half expecting her to say something in English to the kid.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/90 "2004-10-14T21:11:49Z")

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[Porthos!](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=15)

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**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/91 "2004-10-14T21:14:38Z")

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Another theory just occured to me.

What if the whole experience is in Locke’s mind? He was denied the Walkabout and is so desperate for an adventure, so he invents a whole scenario in which he miraculously regains the use of his legs and almost immediately finds himself in a hero role by conquering the boar. Maybe he’s imagining the whole thing while dozing on the airplane? Surely not…that would be too cheesy…right?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/92 "2004-10-14T21:18:24Z")

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> [@Greywolf73](#):
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> Another theory just occured to me.
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> What if the whole experience is in Locke’s mind? He was denied the Walkabout and is so desperate for an adventure, so he invents a whole scenario in which he miraculously regains the use of his legs and almost immediately finds himself in a hero role by conquering the boar. Maybe he’s imagining the whole thing while dozing on the airplane? Surely not…that would be too cheesy…right?

Too many things are happening outside of his awareness if that were the case.

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**Author:** ![Saranga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Saranga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saranga)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/93 "2004-10-14T21:38:50Z")

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The woman on the phone definitely said “customer”. Locke then said “A customer! Is that all I am to you?” or something to that effect.

Yes, Locke referred to the co-worker with whom he was playing Risk by the same codename he used on the phone at the beginning of the episode.

The pregnant lady with the Australian accent used it in all previous episodes. This is probably because the [actress](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0211087/) is Australian. She just had more speaking time in this episode.

Sawyer was also protective of Kate when he found out she was going on another expedition into the forest. He played it off, but he was concerned enough to say something… If they have a history, they’re hiding it really well.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/94 "2004-10-14T21:44:02Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Cool pics.  
> I think [this character](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=16&pos=4) is going to be an interesting watch in the next few eps. I swear, I was half expecting her to say something in English to the kid.

Just out of interest, NoClueBoy - why did you bother obfuscating the character you were talking about, then say something that could only apply to one character on the show? :rolleyes:

Re: phone sex. I don’t have a better explanation, but it doesn’t feel right. I don’t have first-hand experience of such things, but every advert I’ve ever flipped past has listed charges by the minute, not the hour, and the charge is payment for a premium-rate phone call rather than a bill to the customer. I also don’t know if you get phone sex services where you always talk to the same girl, but Locke’s definitely only talked to Helen and that for eight months.

Re: the “We are dead” theory. I was saying to people last week that I will be very pissed off if that’s what’s going on. It’s a hackneyed cliche, and I expect better.

Re: the Tree-Stomper killing the pilot but not killing Locke. So far, the Tree-Stomper hasn’t left the trees. Locke wasn’t in the trees when he encountered it.

Re: the fish not looking holed. It was stabbed with a wide, flat piece of metal, not a round point. There was a very visible slash in its side.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/95 "2004-10-14T21:48:36Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Too many things are happening outside of his awareness if that were the case.

Come on, guys, we don’t need spoiler boxes for theories. Use the [theory] tag.

[theory]Anyway, **NCB** , that didn’t pose a problem for _Dallas_. :D[/theory]

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/96 "2004-10-14T21:55:24Z")

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[theory]  
…or the second Bob Newhart show.  
[/theory]

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/97 "2004-10-14T21:56:38Z")

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> [@Evil Death](#):
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> Just out of interest, NoClueBoy - why did you bother obfuscating the character you were talking about, then say something that could only apply to one character on the show? :rolleyes:
> 
> .

If it was “just out interest,” then why the :rolleyes: ?

Mainly because I couldn’t remember her name, yet I felt that it wouldn’t matter much anyways because the pic would clearly show who it was. (obfuscating my ass…)  
As for the continuing phone sex saga… it still has me slightly buggered too. I mean, sure, it wasn’t a therapist, but outside of phone sex, what else could it be? Not a challange to anyone, merely a question.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/98 "2004-10-14T22:02:32Z")

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btw, I found the character name list _after_ I posted that pic link.

[theory] pseudo science can cover a lot of ground. I’m still leaning on an Island of Dr. Morreau type of scenario.[/theory]  
The Professor could’ve fixed that transceiver/transponder, I betcha!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/99 "2004-10-14T22:06:20Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> I think Locke’s phone lady was his therapist. He needs one, having to deal with whatever caused him to lose use of his legs. Maybe it was all psychological with him.

Nah. Do phone-only therapists exist? There’s no way a therapist would string the guy along with delusions of being his girlfirend or whatever, and certainly it’d be a bizarre situation when a therapist “wasn’t allowed to meet her customers”.

Pretty clearly a phone sex girl.

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**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-4-walkabout/269116/100 "2004-10-14T22:07:52Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> What do we really know about Locke’s condition? If he was paralyzed, what was doing with the EKG (or whatever it was) machine?

I thought it was a ham/short wave radio rig. That would kind of fit with a wheel chair bound man who dreamed of being a soldier of fortune.

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