# Lost 1.5 "White Rabbit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282 "2004-10-20T21:14:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/41 "2004-10-21T13:59:12Z")
Speculation: [spoiler]Jack is at the airport loudly asking someone to sneak a coffin past customs. A Mad Bomber overhears this and thinks “A Ha!” Said bomber sneaks back to the cargo area of the airport, removes the body from the coffin and hides it. Gets in the coffin with a bomb. Once the plane is in the air, the bomber gets out of the coffin, places bomb where it will do the most damage, leaving the coffin empty. Plane blows up real good. Is the Mad Bomber still alive?[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/42 "2004-10-21T14:06:50Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Speculation: > Jack is at the airport loudly asking someone to sneak a coffin past customs. A Mad Bomber overhears this and thinks “A Ha!” > > Said bomber sneaks back to the cargo area of the airport, removes the body from the coffin and hides it. Gets in the coffin with a bomb. > > Once the plane is in the air, the bomber gets out of the coffin, places bomb where it will do the most damage, leaving the coffin empty. Plane blows up real good. > > Is the Mad Bomber still alive? Does this last sentence indicate that you weren’t joking 100%? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/43 "2004-10-21T14:11:54Z")
> [@vunderbob](#): > > My original thought was that the airline removed the body and sent an empty coffin to shut Jack up and get him to LA. However, if he was chasing his dad’s ghost through the jungle, then it makes more sense that Jack planted him in Oz and took an empty coffin to mollify everyone else at home. Or it wasn’t even his dad’s coffin. They prevented him from transporting his father, he sends the body back to the funeral home to wait proper clearance, but has to take the flight himself. Which is why he’s so stunned when he sees the coffin, thinking maybe they did get his dad on the flight. But it turns out to be an unrelated empty coffin (which would explain why it wasn’t bolted shut). Or it could just be something supernatural and his dead dad is now walking around the island. > [@Boscibo](#): > > When Sawyer and Kate were on the ground, did he say something about wanting that for four years? Or did I mishear? Did they know each other before? Yep, I heard that too! ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/44 "2004-10-21T14:26:18Z")
So Jack’s mother thinks she’s lost her husband and her son now. I’m wondering how many of these guest stars (like Veronica Hamel) will have recurring roles in flashbacks. I’m also wondering if we’ll see present-day scenes off the island, like of Hamel’s character having a double funeral for Jack and his dad, or Driveshaft auditioning a new bass player. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/45 "2004-10-21T14:28:25Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > Does this last sentence indicate that you weren’t joking 100%? No. Why? I’ll admit that it’s the most speculative part of the speculation, but considering how many others survived, it’s possible that … my theoretical Mad Bomber survived too. Perhaps he got back in the coffin after placing the bomb where he thought it would to the most damage (in a part of the plane far from the coffin). Or any one of a hundred other freaky occurances. After all, the lame are already walking. ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/46 "2004-10-21T14:32:26Z")
OK this is just me thinking out loud… But what if this is the “Island of Miracles”? Locke was paralyzed and now isn’t; Jack’s dad was dead and now isn’t. Even if someone did come to rescue them, I don’t think Locke will ever leave the island willingly. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/47 "2004-10-21T14:42:10Z")
Yeah but the plane didn’t blow up real good. It seems more like it broke up instead. And that coffin is made out of some incredible stuff to survive a 20000 foot fall and still be on its hinges. And of course Jack is the stongest man in the world to destroy it so easily. Makes me wonder if the coffin was actually there or not. I was really hoping when Jack stumbled across the section of plane that there would be a name other than Oceanic on the side (not that I saw any name, but still) So we’re down to 46 survivors, according to Jack, right? Didn’t they say there were 48 on the first day? Who else died other than the woman who must have gone swimming in a red shirt? The pilot wasn’t included in the initial count since they didn’t know about him at first. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/48 "2004-10-21T14:47:14Z")
Oh and did anyone else notice that Sawyer was reading (which surprised me in the first place) _Watership Down_? White rabbit indeed. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/49 "2004-10-21T15:04:33Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > So we’re down to 46 survivors, according to Jack, right? Didn’t they say there were 48 on the first day? Who else died other than the woman who must have gone swimming in a red shirt? The pilot wasn’t included in the initial count since they didn’t know about him at first. The US Marshall. ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/50 "2004-10-21T15:13:25Z")
> [@kung fu lola](#): > > I felt exactly the same way. In high school, we took a tour of a funeral home and learned that many coffins are wood shells over steel boxes. They are _riveted shut!_ You can’t open most models without power tools. This also bothered me on _Smallville_. Well, it’s clear to me that **kung fu lola** went to a far cooler high school than I did. I was totally expecting the drowning woman to be a figment of Jack’s imagination. I also loved the clinking of the ice in the glass, especially when it was used to announce his father’s appearance in the jungle. Great and creepy. But not as creepy as the crate of dolls. Gah. Dolls never bode well. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/51 "2004-10-21T15:39:08Z")
So Trion, would that be “the Mad Bomber what bombs at midnight”? Don’t want to hijack here but my ancient computer is giving me problems searching for myself, does anyone know what the song was that was playing at the end of Tabula Rasa? I rewatched the episode yesterday and now I can’t get that song out of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/52 "2004-10-21T15:50:23Z")
Allright, help me answer a question. When Jack slipped off the cliff, was he hanging over the ocean or a river bed? My vote is for ocean, but my friend says riverbed. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/53 "2004-10-21T15:53:34Z")
> [@Juniper200](#): > > [the professor](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=5) Wait a sec–it sez here that Naveen Andrews “resides in Los Angeles with his partner, Barbara Hershey.” He was born in 1969 and she in 1948. Since we try not to be creeped out when talking about July/October romances where the man is 21 years older than the woman I will not be sexist. Instead I will say, “You the woman, Barbara!” However, I can’t help a little awkwardness when I think of how I had a crush on her three years before he was born. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/54 "2004-10-21T15:55:37Z")
> [@Judith Prietht](#): > > Allright, help me answer a question. When Jack slipped off the cliff, was he hanging over the ocean or a river bed? My vote is for ocean, but my friend says riverbed. A dry and rocky riverbed. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/55 "2004-10-21T15:59:45Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > So Trion, would that be “the Mad Bomber what bombs at midnight”? Well obviously. 🙂 > [@Max Carnage](#): > > Yeah but the plane didn’t blow up real good. It seems more like it broke up instead. Damn you and your “logic”. 😉 Okay, it’s not a bomber. It’s some crazed maniac with a pair of bolt cutters. Or something. … … I’ll just be sitting over here. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/56 "2004-10-21T16:13:49Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > So Trion, would that be “the Mad Bomber what bombs at midnight”? Yeah, baby, YEAH! I was wondering if the doll had some symbolism to go with the lady who drowned. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/57 "2004-10-21T17:08:47Z")
[Tick Geek] Ok, it’s driving me crazy… “Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight” Thanks… [/Tick Geek] Milkshake! BOOM! ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/58 "2004-10-21T17:17:54Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Don’t want to hijack here but my ancient computer is giving me problems searching for myself, does anyone know what the song was that was playing at the end of Tabula Rasa? I rewatched the episode yesterday and now I can’t get that song out of my head. “Wash Away” by Joe Purdy. If you find a copy, keep me in mind. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/59 "2004-10-21T17:48:15Z")
> [@Juniper200](#): > > “Wash Away” by Joe Purdy. If you find a copy, keep me in mind. 🙂 [http://www.joepurdy.com/](http://www.joepurdy.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/60 "2004-10-21T18:45:18Z")
> [@OneChance](#): > > [http://www.joepurdy.com/](http://www.joepurdy.com/) Or yeah, we could investigate sensible links. That works too. Whatever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282.md?page=4)