# Lost 1.5 "White Rabbit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282 "2004-10-20T21:14:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Keweenaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Keweenaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keweenaw)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/81 "2004-10-22T18:09:21Z")
> [@misstee](#): > > Just subscribing so I can keep up on discusions. > > 🙂 good idea, thanks ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/82 "2004-10-22T18:13:50Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Maybe Korean wife was looking for a chance to break free./QUOTE] According to a story in TV Guide, we will be learning alot more about her backstory soon. There will be several surprises. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Sayid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jack\_Sayid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Sayid)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/83 "2004-10-22T18:33:17Z")
[1.9 - “Solitary” Promotional Photos](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=57) released. Whoa, [Sayid!](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=57&pos=17) ---
**Author:** ![Profane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@Profane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/84 "2004-10-22T18:48:35Z")
Has anyone been keeping up with the words on Charlie’s fingers? I’ve seen “fate” in one episode and this one had “late.” Maybe it’s another Alice reference (I’m late I’m late for a very important date) and the fect that Jack’s father is dead. Or maybe I spend too much time staring at Dominick. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/85 "2004-10-23T14:36:51Z")
I thought Sawyer’s “birthday wish four years ago” was a pervie comment about being forced into sex by a hot woman, not a Kate specific comment. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/86 "2004-10-23T17:44:28Z")
> [@Spree](#): > > Stupid Tivo. :mad: Blasphemy! Tivo does no wrong. Tivo is synced up to some fancy clock on a daily basis. Blame ABC for mis-scheduling their show. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/87 "2004-10-23T18:10:00Z")
> [@kung fu lola](#): > > I felt exactly the same way. In high school, we took a tour of a funeral home and learned that many coffins are wood shells over steel boxes. They are _riveted shut!_ You can’t open most models without power tools. Huh. I thought the dead guy walking around was more of a strain on the suspension of disbelief. 🙂 > [@Judith Prietht](#): > > Allright, help me answer a question. When Jack slipped off the cliff, was he hanging over the ocean or a river bed? My vote is for ocean, but my friend says riverbed. I only saw rocks. > [@Max Carnage](#): > > I think he said “I made this birthday wish four years ago.” I only took it as Sawyer just being a little pervert and trying to make Kate blush. That’s what I heard, too. He was making a sarcastic joke about the situation they were in. Nothing to read into. ---
**Author:** ![Spree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Spree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spree)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/88 "2004-10-23T21:55:09Z")
> [@mouthbreather](#): > > I understand you are upset, BUT DO NOT BADMOUTH THE TIVO. NEXT TIME, SOMEONE WILL KNOCK ON YOUR FRONT DOOR. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Blasphemy! Tivo does no wrong. > > Tivo is synced up to some fancy clock on a daily basis. Blame ABC for mis-scheduling their show. (Sorry Tivo!) Stupid ABC. :mad: I changed my Tivo settings to allow a couple more minutes of recording. In the meantime, can anyone tell me what the previews showed for next week? Pretty please? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/89 "2004-10-23T23:44:02Z")
> [@Jack Sayid](#): > > Whoa, Sayid! That’s exactly my reaction every time I lay peepers on that man. Whoa. Whooooaaa. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/90 "2004-10-24T00:48:09Z")
Who, out of 46 random people, is going to know how to build a solar still? How many of them would have even _heard_ of a solar still? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/91 "2004-10-24T01:51:49Z")
If any of them are Dopers… 😃 Solar stills are easy. If anybody on the plane was in the Scouts, they’ll most likely know how to make one. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/92 "2004-10-24T06:01:59Z")
Couple (or three) of things occured to me on watching the rebroadcast of the last two episodes tonight. 1. Locke did not kill the boar (as someone already hypothesized), the island beast did. This conclusion is based on Locke’s reaction when Hurley (I think) praised him on killing the boar and Locke looked surprised that he would make such a statement. 2. The Korean couple are not married to each other. This is based on the comment that the “husband” makes to the “wife” at the end of the _White Rabbit_ episode when she thanks him for getting her the water. He says “That’s what husbands do.” As if that was a role he was playing. 3. Hi…Veronica Hamel has not aged well. Speculation: the thing that Jack did that his mother refers to as making him responsible for going to get his dad…possibly he reported his dad was an alcoholic and not fit to perform surgery. Thus being forced out of his job as “Chief of Surgery” and causing him to loose all his friends. 4. The island beast is an elephant. P.S. I noticed an interesting difference between the promo clips for _White Rabbit_ and the actual broadcast show. In the promo Locke says “I have looked into the eye of the island and it is magical.” But in the actual episode he says “I have looked into the eye of the island and it is wonderful.” ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/93 "2004-10-24T09:57:01Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > 1. The Korean couple are not married to each other. This is based on the comment that the “husband” makes to the “wife” at the end of the _White Rabbit_ episode when she thanks him for getting her the water. He says “That’s what husbands do.” As if that was a role he was playing. I don’t see where you get that from. When you thank a friend for helping you and they say, “That’s what friends are for”, you don’t suddenly assume that they’re only pretending to be your friend, do you? The obvious interpretation based on his “we should be independent” kick is that he was saying it to prove that her husband was all the help she needed. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/94 "2004-10-24T13:19:35Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > 1. > > The island beast is an elephant. Not a chance. If that were the case, I would cease watching the show right now, since it would be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/95 "2004-10-24T13:59:40Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > 1. The Korean couple are not married to each other. This is based on the comment that the “husband” makes to the “wife” at the end of the _White Rabbit_ episode when she thanks him for getting her the water. He says “That’s what husbands do.” As if that was a role he was playing. Getting water for your spouse is something that a person would do, but the Korean woman seemed surprised by it. Because of the way they interact and that they clearly aren’t comfortable or used to each other, I suspect that they are newly married or soon to be married. This might also be an arranged marriage. I have two friends who had arranged marriages and one of them didn’t meet his soon-to-be-wife until the day of the wedding. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/96 "2004-10-24T14:23:16Z")
Okay, can someone _please_ tell those of us who missed the very end what Kate and Jack were talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/97 "2004-10-24T18:01:53Z")
**Barbarian** , at the end Jack was telling Kate about his father dying. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/98 "2004-10-24T18:06:28Z")
TORN has the TV guide issue scanned. [http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/group/1539](http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/group/1539) For comic mavens: > [@](#): > > The comic is a Spanish translation of “Green Lantern/Flash: Faster Friends” Part 1" The one armed farmer WAS a nod to “The Fugitive” 🆒 Brian ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/99 "2004-10-24T20:06:00Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > … > P.S. I noticed an interesting difference between the promo clips for _White Rabbit_ and the actual broadcast show. In the promo Locke says “I have looked into the eye of the island and it is magical.” But in the actual episode he says “I have looked into the eye of the island and it is wonderful.” I noticed this type of thing a couple things, it’s very annoying but I suppose it’s more the networks doing than the producers. At least I’d like to think so. I believe he said “it’s beautiful” in the actual show. The other time I noticed this thing was in Walkabout. Boone said to Shannon “someone may have died out there”, in the promos it’s “someone died out there.”. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282/100 "2004-10-24T22:45:20Z")
Any significance to the fact that Locke looked into the singular “eye” instead of “eyes”? I don’t think so, but anyone have any thoughts? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-5-white-rabbit/270282.md?page=6)