# Lost 1.6 "House of the Rising Sun" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 27, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570 "2004-10-27T23:45:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/101 "2004-10-28T22:01:26Z")
> [@Legolamb](#): > > I’ve deleted it off my DVR already so I can’t confirm this, but I think the camera angles used meant that you couldn’t ever see Jack in front of Jin this episode. I have a feeling there may have been a couple of extras in line between them anyway. > > Saying that, you could _hear_ Jack start yelling at the girl on the desk just before it cut over to Sun looking out the doors. I’m pretty sure I caught a glimpse of Jack’s elbow, and I definitely heard him saying “in 16 hours I have to be in LA…” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/102 "2004-10-28T22:06:30Z")
> [@h.sapiens](#): > > I had a thought: Sun asked Michael for help. It’s possible she just meant to give her father’s watch back to Jin, and free him from the handcuffs, but she may also have asked him for something else. Of course, now with Jin free, she’s going to have trouble getting away long enough to have a conversation with Michael again. > > . Wow. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/103 "2004-10-28T22:21:11Z")
Wait a second. Wasn’t the designer talking to Sun _in English_ right in front of her husband? ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/104 "2004-10-28T22:22:30Z")
Is anyone following along with the [game](http://i-am-lost.com)? It looks they update it with each episode. Sayid and Locke are my favorite characters. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/105 "2004-10-28T22:24:07Z")
They went into the bedroom and were speaking Korean (with subtitles for us). ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/106 "2004-10-28T22:38:49Z")
No sight of the older African American Woman who said her husband wasn’t dead. Did something happen to her that I missed??? ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/107 "2004-10-28T22:41:08Z")
I was just looking at the ABC Lost [homepage](http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index.html) and I noticed that the Oceanic napkin on the page now has a crude map drawn on it. I don’t recall it being there 2 weeks ago when I last visited. Anyone else notice this? **ava** , how do I navigate the game? ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/108 "2004-10-28T22:42:54Z")
I imagine the stones are tied in with what Locke told the boy in the second episode, when he was explaining the philosophy behind backgammon. Where’s Vincent? Did they eat him? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/109 "2004-10-28T22:44:43Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > They went into the bedroom and were speaking Korean (with subtitles for us). Huh. Apparently my brain wants me to believe that the whole “you’re a lucky wife” thing was said in English. Are you **sure**? ---
**Author:** ![Hanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b3f665/32.png) [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/110 "2004-10-28T22:46:55Z")
> [@Legolamb](#): > > I’ve deleted it off my DVR already so I can’t confirm this, but I think the camera angles used meant that you couldn’t ever see Jack in front of Jin this episode. I have a feeling there may have been a couple of extras in line between them anyway. > > Saying that, you could _hear_ Jack start yelling at the girl on the desk just before it cut over to Sun looking out the doors. I watched it again, and you do briefly see Jack’s face - at least half of it. They zoom past his shoulder fairly fast, and I could hear his tirade after the camera left him. Sun and Jin are standing farther behind him, and the camera focuses on them in the next shots. I also went back and looked at the airport scene in \*White Rabbit, \* and as Jack is pleading and getting angry at the ticket counter the camera zooms in on Jin looking annoyed for a long shot. I also wondered where the axe came from, do planes really carry them as standard equipment? Have they been living off that one boar all week? And what happened to the jungle monster? It was one of the main focuses the first few eps, then _poof_, no mention of it and no one seems worried about it anymore. I had originally thought Jin attacked Michael because he had talked to Sun. I also had a feeling she could speak English, I guess a few times she looked as though she wanted to say something. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/111 "2004-10-28T22:50:22Z")
> [@Silver Fire](#): > > Huh. Apparently my brain wants me to believe that the whole “you’re a lucky wife” thing was said in English. > > Are you **sure**? Yes, it was all in subtitles. She didn’t speak English at all till she approached Michael in the jungle as he was chopping wood. That made it all the more shocking, but I had suspected she spoke it, or at least understood it a little ever since he asked her to watch Walt when he went on the hike. Something about the way she looked at him, like she was dying to let him know that, yes, she’d watch him and Walt would be okay with her, but she couldn’t let on that she understood what he was saying. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/112 "2004-10-28T23:43:05Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Ok, this is the week my DVR decided not to record Lost, despite the fact that it’s recorded fine for the last 3 weeks and is still set to record next week as well. > > Where on line can I find a detailed description of last night’s show? (I’m aware that it’s probably been linked in past threads, but please don’t make me search…pleeeease) ABC scheduled the show to run till 9:01… if your DVR doesn’t have good conflict management and you had something set to record at 9, it might’ve cancelled the 8pm taping because it’d run one minute into the 9pm show. Of course, if you owned a TiVo instead of some cheap rip off, you would’ve got the message from the administrator that ABC was doing this and to double check your scheduling. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/113 "2004-10-28T23:45:02Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Masonite-- Likewise thank you for the backgammon angle, which I had totally forgotten. Black vs. white. Light vs dark, actually. There was a scene from the second (?) episode where the camera zoomed in on Locke, as he talked to the boy, and held up pieces that looked (exactly?) like those found in the pocket and said “Light… vs dark”. I assume these are related. Locke asked the boy if he wanted to know a secret soon after that scene (IIRC). The stones play into some sort of good vs evil symbology. ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/114 "2004-10-29T00:01:28Z")
The more we discuss these black and white stones and the backgammon counters, the more credence I lend to the theory that the bodies are actually Jack and Kate. I **want** the show to just be about the castaways establishing themselves on the island in the wake of the crash, but if it has to go paranormal, I want them to follow that road. On a lighter note, overheard on Livejournal re: Charlie: “I like my drug-addled Hobbit musicians like I like my coffee … covered in bees!” ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/115 "2004-10-29T00:29:26Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I assume these are related. Locke asked the boy if he wanted to know a secret soon after that scene (IIRC). The stones play into some sort of good vs evil symbology. Locke’s “secret”, as has been revealed, was that a miracle occurred, and that miracle - also revealed - was his being able to walk again. I don’t think that is relevent to the whole “black & white”, “good vs. evil” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/116 "2004-10-29T00:56:32Z")
It was a lucky thing that Charlie was not allergic to bees like he thought. It’s kind of funny that before this episode I had been wondering what would happen if someone had an allergic reaction without any meds to treat it. A quick google search shows that there are species of ground-nesting bees (digger bees, mining bees) and wasps so that wasn’t totally off the wall. Re: Light and dark. I do not believe this is necessarily the same as good and evil. We all have are light and dark sides but the dark nature is not necessarily evil. Sometimes good people just do bad things. Eh … I’m not drunk enough to be discussing this. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/117 "2004-10-29T01:49:25Z")
> [@ava](#): > > Is anyone following along with the [game](http://i-am-lost.com)? It looks they update it with each episode. WTF? I can’t make heads or tails of that site. Some instructions or explanation would be nice… ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/118 "2004-10-29T02:00:06Z")
> [@Darwin's Finch](#): > > Locke’s “secret”, as has been revealed, was that a miracle occurred, and that miracle - also revealed - was his being able to walk again. I don’t think that is relevent to the whole “black & white”, “good vs. evil” thing. Ah, yes. Fair enough. I still think there’s something to the colored stones relating to dark vs light stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/119 "2004-10-29T02:17:20Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > It’s kind of funny that before this episode I had been wondering what would happen if someone had an allergic reaction without any meds to treat it. What, you’ve never seen **My Girl**? ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570/120 "2004-10-29T02:26:58Z")
> [@Silver Fire](#): > > Huh. Apparently my brain wants me to believe that the whole “you’re a lucky wife” thing was said in English. > > Are you **sure**? Yeah, I noticed something weird there too. My brain thought, hey, cool, “lucky wife” in Korean sounds exactly like it does in English! But it was only those two words. Spooky. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-6-house-of-the-rising-sun/271570.md?page=7)