# Lost 2.1: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631 "2005-09-21T00:46:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/81 "2005-09-22T01:40:08Z")

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My money’s on Desmond being the guy in the Hatch.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/82 "2005-09-22T01:42:38Z")

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Very old computer. That guy’s been down there a while. I guess that’s what the old song is telling us, too.

Secret government monitoring station? Magnetic research lab? Dr. Evil’s lair?  
“So, you’ve found me at last, Mr. Powers… ermmm… wait, who the hell are you people?”

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/83 "2005-09-22T01:43:41Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> Does that place scream “evil lab” to anybody else?

Dude … you mean Desmond = Dexter?

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**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/84 "2005-09-22T01:45:16Z")

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My god, that was a fast hour!

So obviously Desmond hasn’t been down the hatch as long as the vinyl and and ancient Computer would seem to indicate… unless he’s an EVIL TWIN!

Hey, was the patient the woman Jack was marrying?

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/85 "2005-09-22T01:46:14Z")

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OH MY GOD!!! She can wiggle her toes! I about cried!

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/86 "2005-09-22T01:46:58Z")

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holy crap, it IS Desmond! Yep!!!

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**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/87 "2005-09-22T01:47:42Z")

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Damn! How am I supposed to wait a whole week?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/88 "2005-09-22T01:48:38Z")

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> [@thwartme](#):
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> Hey, was the patient the woman Jack was marrying?

Yep – that was Sarah, from the one of the previous Jack flashbacks. Remember in that episode, there was the info about his wife-to-be having been a car crash patient of his, and he fixed her.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/89 "2005-09-22T01:48:57Z")

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Yeah. The patient was Jack’s future former wife.

Wow. That was a hell of an episode.

Well, Invasion. It’s your turn. I don’t envy you following that.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/90 "2005-09-22T01:49:45Z")

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What kind of frickin’ preview was _that?_ That was stuff we’ve already seen!!

But … yeah. Holy crap.

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**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/91 "2005-09-22T01:51:59Z")

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Noooo! No more questions! Answers, now! Gimme, gimme, gimme!

Anyway, given Desmond’s spiel about how it would be a “miracle” if the patient was healed, and can now walk, and then Locke is “miraculously” healed, and can now walk, I’m inclined to think that both were healed in the same way. Heck if I know why, though.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/92 "2005-09-22T01:52:28Z")

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167 hours, 56 minutes until the next “Lost.”

167 hours, 55 minutes.

167 hours, 54 minutes…

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/93 "2005-09-22T01:52:41Z")

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Gosh darn it all to heck anyway … all that time, all those questions, and still so few answers! _Arrrrrrrrrrgh!_ I am _so_ J.J. Abrams’ bitch.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/94 "2005-09-22T01:54:22Z")

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Oh, and by the way … if this turns into _Joan of Arcadia_, there are going to be words, I tell you.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/95 "2005-09-22T02:00:59Z")

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Did anyone have subtitles running to catch what Walt was saying, if anything?

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/96 "2005-09-22T02:02:24Z")

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Thank god for Channel 45. It’s usually pretty worthless, just infomercials and Green Acres, but they moved the first 30 minutes of Lost over there so we could avoid interruption.

Hope you didn’t miss anything **Ass For A Hat**.

Am I the only person who didn’t expect Hatch Guy to be Desmond until he spoke?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/97 "2005-09-22T02:02:36Z")

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Okay, the new questions:

Why is there a guy living inside the hatch?  
How did Walt appear to Shannon?  
What was Walt telling Shannon?  
What happened to Kate?  
What’s the deal with 108?  
What’s the deal with the magnet?  
Is this the same Desmond who Jack saw back home?  
How did Sarah get un-paralyzed?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/98 "2005-09-22T02:04:26Z")

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And one more:

Why didn’t somebody pull the Jet Blue commercial off before it aired?

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/99 "2005-09-22T02:06:20Z")

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> [@Dante](#):
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> Did anyone have subtitles running to catch what Walt was saying, if anything?

I think it said something like “indistinct whispering”.

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**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-1-man-of-science-man-of-faith/322631/100 "2005-09-22T02:07:31Z")

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> [@Dante](#):
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> Did anyone have subtitles running to catch what Walt was saying, if anything?

I turned on Closed Captioning, and it just said _[whispers indistinctly]_, or some such. Of course, it _has_ been wrong in the past.

**Little Nemo** , I’d also add:  
What was the medicine for?  
If Desmond or whomever (anyone other than Jack, really) un-paralyzed Sarah, why?  
What was the quarantine sign for?

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