# Lost 2.10: "The 23rd Psalm" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 11, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422 "2006-01-11T02:18:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/1 "2006-01-11T02:18:26Z")
First, the thread rules: > [@](#): > > Information about all episodes aired to this point – including the current week – will be unboxed. > Information about this week’s episode’s “next week” teasers will be unboxed. > Information about future episodes taken from spoiler sites/inside sources will be boxed. This includes links to promo photos and screencaps from future episodes. > Speculation based on events in episodes aired up to this point (including teasers) will be unboxed. > Speculation based on spoilers for upcoming episodes will be boxed. > > Please remember, links inside spoiler boxes are readable even to those who don’t highlight. It’s been quite awhile since we’ve had a new episode. I was expecting to be pretty darn excited, but I find myself just pissed that the producers inserted such a big break in the season. Anyway, I don’t expect any huge revelations this week. Also, note that there is a 1 hour recap episode before the episode. If you have a series recording set on your DVR, make sure you have it set to save more than one episode if you plan to record and you want to keep that recap. (I got burned on this “feature” during the Survivor Season finale.) From the ABC “Lost” site: “The 23rd Psalm” Mr. Eko interrogates Charlie about the Virgin Mary statue, Claire begins to lose faith in Charlie when she discovers his secret, and Jack is an interested observer when Kate gives the recovering Sawyer a much-needed haircut. Some useful links are given below: Thread index for Season 1 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277083) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278382) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279542) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280792) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=281998) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283328) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284665) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=285925) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=287237) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289514) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290718) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=295320) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296591) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297760) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301602) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302710) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304986) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309511) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310613) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315048) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317139) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318051) Thread index for Season 2 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=335991) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337167) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338307) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339366) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=340432) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343878) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=345144) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=346239) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347177) [The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221) [Official “Lost” Questions Thread, Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542) [Official “Lost” Questions Thread, Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040) ---
**Author:** ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/2 "2006-01-11T07:01:23Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > “The 23rd Psalm” Mr. Eko interrogates Charlie about the Virgin Mary statue, Claire begins to lose faith in Charlie when she discovers his secret, and Jack is an interested observer when Kate gives the recovering Sawyer a much-needed haircut. Not really sure about spoiler rules here, but since I’m discussing the above spoiler… …sounds like a pretty slow episode. I’m mostly just interested in seeing Eko’s past. Interesting that he’s going to be the one interrogating Chuck in that it sets up another parallel between him and Locke. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/3 "2006-01-11T10:31:02Z")
> [@Team of Scientists](#): > > Not really sure about spoiler rules here, but since I’m discussing the above spoiler… > > …sounds like a pretty slow episode. I’m mostly just interested in seeing Eko’s past. Interesting that he’s going to be the one interrogating Chuck in that it sets up another parallel between him and Locke. “Charlie” was on a talk show the other night, and they played a scene from the upcoming episode. Semi-spoilery regarding Eko’s past… [spoiler] He’s interrogating Charlie about the virgin mary statue, and makes charlie take him to where he found it. Charlie lies and says he found it somewhere in the jungle. Eko then says “stop lying and take me to the plane”. From the snippet it does appear Eko somehow knows about the heroin plane. He couldn’t have been on board the heroin plane, as he’d know where it was, but it’s quite a coincidence that he’d crash on the same island as the heroin plane. Of course this show is full of weird coincidences.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/4 "2006-01-11T12:32:11Z")
I was wondering what that “extra” episode was. Thanks for clearing _that_ up. I figured as much, but with this show, you never know, you know? Eko _fascinates_ me. Looking forward to seeing more of him tonight. I also wonder how many others (heh) are getting bored with Charlie. Maybe I’ll get over it if he sings “You All Everybody” in tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/5 "2006-01-11T12:40:55Z")
Is it a new recap or the older recap? I can hardly remember what’s been happening - it’s been so long since we had a new episode. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/6 "2006-01-11T14:20:05Z")
The clip show will catch you up through this season. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/7 "2006-01-11T14:24:45Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > The clip show will catch you up through this season. Not only will it be catching up on this season, it will be integrating the stories of the Losties and the Tailies in chronological order, rather than the lateral storytelling that confused the hell out of a lot of people for the first half of the season. I’m just going to watch it so I can remember what happened in the _last_ episode, which I recall being on sometime around July. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/8 "2006-01-11T14:49:00Z")
> [@zuma](#): > > From the snippet it does appear Eko somehow knows about the heroin plane. He couldn’t have been on board the heroin plane, as he’d know where it was, but it’s quite a coincidence that he’d crash on the same island as the heroin plane. Of course this show is full of weird coincidences. Something that already happened, I believe, but spoiled just so it doesn’t give anything above away … Didn’t Locke tell Eko about the plane when they sat down and pow-wowed before watching the Orientation film? ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/9 "2006-01-11T17:14:56Z")
It’s been so long, I’m actually looking forward to watching the clip show. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/10 "2006-01-11T17:23:25Z")
I was just wondering where **John Mace** was with the Lost thread. I was on a couple of other sites trying to catch myself up, and was reminded of why this is the only message board I frequent. > [@some jackass from lost-forum.com](#): > > OMG i totally lurved that jate kiss!!!11! do u think they’ll get maried!? > [@some other jackass at lost-forum.com for the nth time](#): > > maybe their in purgurtory? Jebus help me, but they are some kind of stupid over there. The few decent posters who actually have something to contribute are drowned out. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/11 "2006-01-11T17:37:05Z")
**Dante** , just reading what you quoted gives me the shivers. Thank Og for the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/12 "2006-01-11T18:10:07Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > > [@some jackass from lost-forum.com](#): > > > > OMG i totally lurved that jate kiss!!!11! do u think they’ll get maried!? I … _shudder_. What does this even _mean_? Am I speaking in tongues _right now_ without my knowledge? Admittedly, I haven’t checked my Book of Revelations lately, but I do believe that sort of talk is a sign of the Apocalypse. I’m frightened. Will you hold me? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/13 "2006-01-11T18:52:04Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I … _shudder_. What does this even _mean_? Am I speaking in tongues _right now_ without my knowledge? No, you’re speaking Korean. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/14 "2006-01-11T19:57:06Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I … _shudder_. What does this even _mean_? Am I speaking in tongues _right now_ without my knowledge? Admittedly, I haven’t checked my Book of Revelations lately, but I do believe that sort of talk is a sign of the Apocalypse. I’m frightened. Will you hold me? Well, see, here’s the thing. On this board, there are two main camps of Fantasy Romance People or 'Shippers (as in relationship). One group is called Jaters. They are in favour of/hypothesize/obssess about/sit in their parent’s basement and masturbate to the relationship between **J** ack and **Kate**. The other group is called Skaters. They, of course, favor a union between **S** awyer and **Kate**. Subforums include the following pairings: Jin/Sun Michael/Sun Charlie/Claire Sayid/Shannon Boone/Shannon I’ve already gotten a mod warning there for doing the message board equivalent of pointing and laughing… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/15 "2006-01-11T20:37:01Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > (reiterating / 'splaining a bunch of blahblahblah gobbledygook something weirdocakes goofy nonsense that makes my head want to explode) But … _why?_ I mean, I watch the show, and I guess in some ways it’s _sort_ of like a soap opera, but … _why?_ The relationships are important, I guess, but what about the rest of the bizarro shit that’s going down on the island? You know: dead Walts, crazy French ladies, mystery Desmonds, Mamas-and-Papas, disappearing monsters? _Who gives a flying fuckwaffle whether Jack and Kate get “maried”_ [sic]? The _hell?_ Am I really this old all of the sudden? Or just spoiled from being on a message board with people who understand that “Jack” and “Kate” are not actually real people? (My goodness, I sound grumpy.) Obviously, that is not directed at you, **Dante**. I just don’t understand, is all. Here we are, obsessing over whose farking _glass eye_ was left in what cave and _why_, and these people are in a froth over a kiss? _Gaaaaaack._ To say that I fear for the future of humanity would be a severe understatement. I think I need a nap. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/16 "2006-01-11T20:40:55Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I think I need a nap. Don’t forget to set your alarm clock–you don’t want to miss the show. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/17 "2006-01-11T20:42:09Z")
Really. **True**'Shippers still argue about whether Spike or Angel was the right one for Buffy! 😃 At least this board obsesses over weirder stuff, like glass eyes and heroin-filled statues. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/18 "2006-01-11T21:02:06Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > But … _why?_ I mean, I watch the show, and I guess in some ways it’s _sort_ of like a soap opera, but … _why?_ The relationships are important, I guess, but what about the rest of the bizarro shit that’s going down on the island? You know: dead Walts, crazy French ladies, mystery Desmonds, Mamas-and-Papas, disappearing monsters? This is probably what chaps my ass the most. With everything going on in the show, they focus _obsessively_ on a minor romance aspect of the story. You almost feel like saying “You know, you’re just not allowed to watch anymore. Go watch _The O.C._ or something.” I feel like Professor Frink on the Simpsons. Child: Can I play with that? Frink: No, you won’t enjoy it on as many levels as I will. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/19 "2006-01-11T21:09:15Z")
I don’t think I’m giving away any spoiler here, but the writers are on record as saying that viewers should not lose sight of the fact that the show is primarily about the characters. Of course, that’s what they want us to think!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422/20 "2006-01-11T21:10:19Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > I feel like Professor Frink on the Simpsons. Well, you’re not alone in that. I’ll think of you when I take my Geritol later. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-10-the-23rd-psalm/339422.md?page=2)