# Lost 2.11: "The Hunting Party" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 18, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518 "2006-01-18T16:25:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/181 "2006-01-20T20:07:51Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > **Sarah:** I’m leaving you. I’ve been seeing someone else. > **Me:** Well, Jack, I guess you should’ve banged Gabriela. **Me** (as Jack): Honey, you’re hot, but Gabriela is hotter than hot. See ya!!! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/182 "2006-01-20T20:14:35Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I’m still suspicious of Libby. Even though Goodwin turned out to be a plant, it seems odd that she just happens to have a background in psychology. Are we sure she was on the plane? I hope Hurley checked the tailies against the passenger manifest!!! We saw her coming out of the water at the same time as AnaL. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/183 "2006-01-20T20:15:53Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > It was obvious that there was chemistry long before the kiss. In the first scene with HIC (hot Italian chick), I said to my Lost-mates: Sparks are flying! > > I like the way they left this show. Sure, they didn’t advance the story much, but they told us what direction it’s going to take in the future. I liked the way BB’s voice was crystal clear, and that he called them by name. Man, was that creepy. > > My biggest complaint is that they’ve introduced too many new characters, and it takes too much time to move the story forward with all of them. Still, it’s great TV, and continues to captivate me. > > I’m still suspicious of Libby. Even though Goodwin turned out to be a plant, it seems odd that she just happens to have a background in psychology. Are we sure she was on the plane? I hope Hurley checked the tailies against the passenger manifest!!! Yeah, it would be Hurley’s rotten luck if his love interest turned out to be one of the Others or the other Others. Poor Hurley. ☹ Oh, and I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I like Ana Lucia. I think she will turn out to be a very valuable person on the island. Perhaps training the Lostaway Army Corp will redeem her, no? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/184 "2006-01-20T20:28:54Z")
> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#): > > I like Ana Lucia. I think she will turn out to be a very valuable person on the island. Perhaps training the Lostaway Army Corp will redeem her, no? In the Amazing “Lost” Chess Board Of My Mind, Ana Lucia is a sacrifice Knight\*. _(Look, there she is, between Rook Sawyer and Bishop Eko!)_ That she’ll serve a useful purpose, there is no doubt: her role is to serve and to protect Jack. Part of me believes that she was asked to train the army because she is needed on the front lines. Where all the action is. And the bullets. And the death. \*\* = This is changed from my earlier theory that Sayid is a sacrifice Knight, because I like him better. Although, AnaL’s hair and Sayid’s hair are pretty much interchangeable at this point. What? Oh, sorry. I need a nap. For about a week. Never mind me.\* ---
**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/185 "2006-01-20T21:02:35Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > In the Amazing “Lost” Chess Board Of My Mind, Ana Lucia is a sacrifice Knight\*. _(Look, there she is, between Rook Sawyer and Bishop Eko!)_ That she’ll serve a useful purpose, there is no doubt: her role is to serve and to protect Jack. Part of me believes that she was asked to train the army because she is needed on the front lines. Where all the action is. And the bullets. And the death. > > \*\* = This is changed from my earlier theory that Sayid is a sacrifice Knight, because I like him better. Although, AnaL’s hair and Sayid’s hair are pretty much interchangeable at this point. What? Oh, sorry. I need a nap. For about a week. Never mind me.\* Ok, your’e entitled to you’re opinion but if it was my chess game I’d like to sacrifice the CharliePawn and the MichaelPawn as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/186 "2006-01-20T21:05:28Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > > [@Monstre](#): > > > > Well, Shannon was the last female Lostaway that we saw definitely getting some action, but she did manage to find another method of contraception… > > I’ve heard “abortion is murder” but never “murder is abortion”! Tired of taking the pill? Fed up with over-the-counter sponges and spermicides? Is he complaining about loss of sensation from wearing condoms? Introducing, from Monstre Industries, a new prescription contraceptive product – **Death[sup]TM[/sup]**. You’ve seen the research, you know the stats. Sponges and spermicides are not always effective at preventing pregnancy, and they do not protect against HIV or other STDs. In fact, no method of birth control is 100% effective… until now. **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** birth control is guaranteed 100% effective at preventing unwanted pregnancy, or your money back. This revolutionary new product comes in a choice of delivery systems – from the patented **Death[sup]TM[/sup] Morning-After Pill**, containing a special quick-dissolve cyanide-arsenic formula, to the **Death[sup]TM[/sup] Fast-Acting Injection Capsule**, easily placed under the skin via any standard handgun. **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** may not be for everyone. People with a history of heart disease should not use **Death[sup]TM[/sup]**. Side effects of **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, bleeding, and death. Ask your doctor if **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** is right for you. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/187 "2006-01-20T21:28:31Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Of course, I hope he’s dead. But that’s because I still hate the fucker. Wouldn’t **that** be cool? Killing off a major character in such an offhand, not to mention off-screen manner. Please, please, please! As for the number of cartridges…I need to go back and ID the rifle Michael took. IIRC, it looked like a Remington 700 or the like, which means a seriously limited number of shells. Like 5. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/188 "2006-01-20T21:34:40Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** may not be for everyone. People with a history of heart disease should not use **Death[sup]TM[/sup]**. Side effects of **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, bleeding, and death. Ask your doctor if **Death[sup]TM[/sup]** is right for you. [Soon to be a Major Motion Picture](http://www.answers.com/topic/a-scanner-darkly). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/189 "2006-01-20T21:47:07Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Wouldn’t **that** be cool? Killing off a major character in such an offhand, not to mention off-screen manner. Please, please, please! > > As for the number of cartridges…I need to go back and ID the rifle Michael took. IIRC, it looked like a Remington 700 or the like, which means a seriously limited number of shells. Like 5. I kind of think he’d grab some extra shells - a box or a few clips or SOMETHING. Of course, we all know how clouded our brains can get when we’re focussed on WAAAAAAAAAALT! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/190 "2006-01-20T21:57:44Z")
“WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!” “Shut up, dad. You’re embarrassing me in front of my new hot girlfriend, Alex…” ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/191 "2006-01-21T00:07:51Z")
I’m surprised nobody has commented that Libby is _obviously_ bound for the glue factory here. Remember, Hurley cares for her now. That’ll end worse than Kneivel at Snake River Canyon. That’s more of a death wish than casting Ted McGinley. Remember what Danielle said to him about the numbers – they took every person that she cared for until she was all alone. That is Hurley’s fate, and now Libby’s along with him. Also I like the direction Locke’s character is going. I also stand by an old theory of mind about the madness that is coming due to the “sickness.” Look at the menace behind BB’s saying “nearly two months” when asking Jack how long they have been on the island. Michael probably has been taken. Jack is next, Kate probably not far behind. Charlie’ll be next. We’ll see what happens after to Claire after the Other’s or Danielle takes Turniphead Locke and Hurley are doomed to survive. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/192 "2006-01-21T01:17:37Z")
So did anyone get an impression of exactly what happened with the gunfire? My impression was that Sawyer shot at BB at basically point blank range, and ended up hitting himself in the ear. Meanwhile, BB vanished as if ethereal, and then reappared a few moments later. If BB is immune to bullets and can teleport, I don’t see how having an army is going to help. I agree that the conversation really made no sense and was totally unsatisfying. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/193 "2006-01-21T01:33:43Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So did anyone get an impression of exactly what happened with the gunfire? My impression was that Sawyer shot at BB at basically point blank range, and ended up hitting himself in the ear. Meanwhile, BB vanished as if ethereal, and then reappared a few moments later. > > If BB is immune to bullets and can teleport, I don’t see how having an army is going to help. > > I agree that the conversation really made no sense and was totally unsatisfying. Wow, I never saw that at all. What I thought happened was that Sawyer took aim, and someone from the shadows winged him. I only watched it once, though. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/194 "2006-01-21T01:50:16Z")
> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#): > > Ok, your’e entitled to you’re opinion but if it was my chess game I’d like to sacrifice the CharliePawn and the MichaelPawn as soon as possible. Well, that goes without saying! I was thinking of AnaKnight as more of high-level, endgame sort of sacrifice. I mean, I want her _gone_, but she’s going to serve a purpose for a bit longer. I don’t want CharliePawn around any longer than absolutely necessary (although I don’t have the same hate for Michael that you do). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/195 "2006-01-21T01:57:15Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] So did anyone get an impression of exactly what happened with the gunfire? My impression was that Sawyer shot at BB at basically point blank range, and ended up hitting himself in the ear. QUOTE] It would be exceedingly difficult to accidentally shoot yourself in the ear. Most likely a good shot grazed him with a round. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/196 "2006-01-21T02:11:45Z")
[QUOTE=SenorBeef] > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > It would be exceedingly difficult to accidentally shoot yourself in the ear. Well, duh 🙂 I thought it was yet another example of island magic/nanotechnology. ---
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/197 "2006-01-21T02:28:28Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Well, duh 🙂 > > I thought it was yet another example of island magic/nanotechnology. Remember Jack’s comment to BB about there only being one guy (other than BB) out there with a gun. Thus cementing the marksman, in the jungle/darkness, grazing Sawyer with a shot. -rainy ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/198 "2006-01-21T10:57:27Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So did anyone get an impression of exactly what happened with the gunfire? My impression was that Sawyer shot at BB at basically point blank range, and ended up hitting himself in the ear. i was confused too. clearly BB wanted sawyer to think there was a marksman, but the way the scene played out it seemed like sawyers bullet richocheted back at him. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/199 "2006-01-21T14:37:11Z")
We were talking about this in the Lost Questions Thread. Here was my reply when the question came up: > [@middleman](#): > > He got shot first, but I know what you are saying. It looked like Sawyer fired and the bullet richoted back at him. > > But I watched it several times, worrying that there was a force field being introduced! :smack: > > After mulitple viewings it was pretty clear that before Sawyer’s gun gets to firing position, he is shot. There was no flash or recoil from his gun. > > And then later, Jack mentions that he believes BB only has one buddy with a gun in the woods. That would be the shooter. I also worry about Jack’s army if there is a shooter on BB’s crew that can graze someone’s face. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518/200 "2006-01-21T14:50:31Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > We were talking about this in the Lost Questions Thread. Here was my reply when the question came up: > > I also worry about Jack’s army if there is a shooter on BB’s crew that can graze someone’s face. Pehaps he’s a \*bad \*shot - maybe he was aiming for a kneecap! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-11-the-hunting-party/340518.md?page=11)