# Lost 2.14 "One of Them"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 15, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668 "2006-02-15T19:22:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/261 "2006-02-23T22:13:25Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> Gravity doesn’t work that way.

How about smoke in the area of a jet intake?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/262 "2006-02-23T22:22:52Z")

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This is off topic, but I havn’t been able to post for a while and I noticed something a few episodes ago.

This may have been discussed, but not that I know of.

When Libby is talking to Hurley, he says, “Have we met” and she says, “Only on the plane, you stepped on my foot when you came on” or something like that.

Anyway, since Hurley was the last one on the plane and seated in the mid section, how could he step on Libby who was in the tail section?

Now I see 4 possible answers.

1. She wasn’t in her seat at the time, for some reason she was farther up.

2. She was actually seated farther up, but was in the back for some reason when the plane broke up (like Bernard)

3. She was lying and she’s one of the others

4. The writers screwed up.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/263 "2006-02-23T23:01:07Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Now I see 4 possible answers.
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> 1. She wasn’t in her seat at the time, for some reason she was farther up.
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> 2. She was actually seated farther up, but was in the back for some reason when the plane broke up (like Bernard)
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> 3. She was lying and she’s one of the others
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> 4. The writers screwed up.

Yeah, we talked about this a lot in the thread for that episode. I think there is no question she was lying about stepping on his foot. But she may have other reasons for lying than being “An Other”-- maybe she’s a nutcase, and was in the same hospital with Hurley but doesn’t want anyone to know.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/264 "2006-02-24T15:24:43Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Now I see 4 possible answers.

1. He came in the back door of the plane and walked all the way up the aisle to the middle of the plane.

re: “Gravity doesn’t work that way.”

Jumbo jets don’t come apart at altitude and speed, cartwheel through a jungle, and have 48 people walk away from the accident, either (well, 47; I don’t think the guy that lost the leg did much walking after that… where is he, by the way?). If some smoke changing direction in a breeze causes a red flag to go up for you, we have to talk…

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/265 "2006-02-24T15:29:36Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> 1. He came in the back door of the plane and walked all the way up the aisle to the middle of the plane.

Nah. We saw Hurley running into the plane. He was going front to back.

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> re: “Gravity doesn’t work that way.”
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> Jumbo jets don’t come apart at altitude and speed, cartwheel through a jungle, and have 48 people walk away from the accident, either (well, 47; I don’t think the guy that lost the leg did much walking after that… where is he, by the way?). If some smoke changing direction in a breeze causes a red flag to go up for you, we have to talk…

They were able to land safely because of the smoke…???

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/266 "2006-02-24T16:53:57Z")

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Anyone picked up that “Gale’s” balloon exactly matches the dimensions of Steve Fossett’s balloon, the Solo Spirit, a balloon BTW that could only carry one person?

"The Solo Spirit balloon uses a combination of helium and hot air to fly, a design known as a Roziere balloon. The balloon envelope is 140 feet tall and 60 feet wide. It contains 550,000 cubic feet of helium plus 100,000 cubic feet of hot air. It was designed by Donald Cameron and built by Cameron Balloons Ltd, Bristol, England. It contains no engine; the balloon is powered solely by the wind. Forty tanks of fuel, a mixture of propane and ethane, hang from the outside of the capsule. This fuel is burned to heat the helium in the balloon to cause it to rise. The pilot steers the balloon by ascending or descending to catch winds blowing in the desired direction. The balloon carries the Comstock Autopilot, which can maintain the balloon at a constant altitude by using a computer to control the burners. This allows the pilot to get some sleep! "

from [http://www.solospirit.wustl.edu/flight.html](http://www.solospirit.wustl.edu/flight.html)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/267 "2006-02-24T20:47:51Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> Anyone picked up that “Gale’s” balloon exactly matches the dimensions of Steve Fossett’s balloon, the Solo Spirit, a balloon BTW that could only carry one person?

Of course we all picked up on it. No one commented on it since it was so obvious.

😉

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**Author:** ![Skott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Skott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skott)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/268 "2006-02-26T22:59:40Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> It’s official…Sawyer won the Most Hated Lostaway, beating out Charlie by one squished tree frog.

I think that many people on the Hawaiian islands would like to squish some tree frogs. They’ve [infested the islands](http://www.hear.org/AlienSpeciesInHawaii/species/frogs/), make loud, extremely annoying noises, and now it’s gone so far that real estate agencies are required to disclose whether there are tree frogs on the property.

Something tells me that whoever thought up this kinda of pointless short storyline did it to show one of their fantasies 😉 I can just imagine one of the writers, directors, producers, or actors, living on the island, thinking “Wouldn’t it be _great_ if I could just go out and start squishing those little buggers by the bucket load? Well, damn, I can have Sawyer do it!” Otherwise, I saw no point except to provide a made-up explanation for why Hurley doesn’t lose weight.

I do think that Gale is “one of them” (CFL refers to the “Others” as the voices in the jungle, which I don’t think Zeke or any of the other groups on the island we’ve seen are part of). The first feeling I got was his commentary up in the net: It sounded like he was reciting rehearsed facts. Then he did the same thing again when Sayid was questioning him, suddenly spouting off all the statistics about the balloon… again, too rehearsed. Sheesh, when I’m being tortured, I guarantee you I won’t be able to remember how many cubic feet of helium would be required to keep it up. The look at the end, of course, kinda cemented it, and seriously? I trust Sayid’s feelings.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/269 "2006-02-28T13:42:13Z")

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/270 "2006-02-28T14:09:32Z")

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Oddly enough, I’m seeing ads for cheap airline tickets. I wonder if Oceanic has any deals these days.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/271 "2006-02-28T14:15:16Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> I wonder if Oceanic has any deals these days.

I think they filed for bankruptcy.

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