# Lost 2.14 "One of Them"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [February 15, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668 "2006-02-15T19:22:09Z")
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### Author: ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/161 "2006-02-16T18:05:49Z")

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> [@yellowval](#):
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> Something else that bothered me from last night’s show. I certainly can’t be the only one wondering who exactly is in Jack and AnaL’s army. He didn’t ask Sayid, or Locke. It doesn’t appear that Jin is involved. I’d think those three would be the first he would approach.

I was under the impression that the whole army idea never really got off the ground. You mentioned the three most likely cantidates (Kate & Eko being up there as well) and without any of those folks, well, you got a pretty lame army. Unless the “army” is really just a posse so that Jack can assert his will on the Lost-aways…_shakes fist at Jack_

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/162 "2006-02-16T18:06:12Z")

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I’m beginning to think that before too long Jack is going to start rolling steel balls in his fingers and counting the strawberries in the hatch pantry. Sayid and ocke are going to be the ones in control before Jack finally snaps.

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### Author: ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/163 "2006-02-16T18:14:11Z")

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> [@Ass For A Hat](#):
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> I started thinking that maybe this guy was intended to be captured and brought to the hatch. The Others likely know that our Losties are in the hatch now. Maybe they want to see what’s going on in there, now that Desmond is gone. Are the Losties pushing the button? If not, did whatever was supposed to happen, really happen? I thought maybe the sinister look on the prisoner’s face was because he saw that the clock had been reset to 108. Could he see it from where he was after Locke opened the door?

> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> No, I don’t think he could have seen the counter, but he surely noted that the claxon shut off, so if he was aware of the button, he knows it was reset.

Now I’m wondering if the “incident” that was referenced in the film is something that occurred to the Others, turning them into what they are. And that they are interested in whether the same will happen to the castaways as well.

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/164 "2006-02-16T18:16:22Z")

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> [@Wile E](#):
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> Poor Vincent, finds boy, loses boy, finds girl, girl gets shot and dies, finds boy’s dad, loses boy’s dad. Poor Vincent.

… finds Sun, Sun gets quasi-grabbed…

I’d steer clear of that dog. He’s bad news, without Walt’s luck to balance him out.

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### Author: ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/165 "2006-02-16T18:23:34Z")

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What are non-metallic metals? That’s what Henry Gale says he mined.

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/166 "2006-02-16T18:28:29Z")

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> [@Birdmonster](#):
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> -Sawyer/Hurley plot was the plot-b…iest subplot ever. They could’ve at _least_ stumbled on some whispering or something.

I loved it. It was a perfect “whimsical” contrast to a torture plotline.

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### Author: ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/167 "2006-02-16T18:30:17Z")

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> [@BobT](#):
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> What are non-metallic metals? That’s what Henry Gale says he mined.

Here are some…  
[http://website.lineone.net/~webrex/commonmins.html](http://website.lineone.net/~webrex/commonmins.html)

I believe I also saw a Google link for some sort of conference for people who mine this stuff, too.

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### Author: ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/168 "2006-02-16T18:34:48Z")

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> [@BobT](#):
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> What are non-metallic metals? That’s what Henry Gale says he mined.

Non-metallic _minerals_ is what I heard. Talc, quartz, calcite…wow, how about that, first [hit](http://website.lineone.net/~webrex/commonmins.html) from Google is very helpful.

Not sure what the significance of that in the big picture is…odd choice for it to be nothing…maybe Dharma was involved in the asbestos removal business…the button merely is keeping a lid on an asbestos landfill. 😉

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### Author: ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/169 "2006-02-16T18:41:43Z")

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Sorry for the off the cuff descriptions, I had about 1.2 seconds to pause before my roommate was screaming at me to press play.

**Baraqiyal’s** link exactly matched the images shown, and it makes sense in context. It really doesn’t reveal that much anyways. Desmond could have told us that letting the timer run out was “cause to die”. Speaking of which, is anyone else wondering what he’s up to, where he is, what else he knows?

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### Author: ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/170 "2006-02-16T18:46:14Z")

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Not-metallic minerals does make a lot more sense. If someone had said non-metallic metals to me, I might have gotten out my pliers.

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### Author: ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/171 "2006-02-16T18:46:21Z")

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> [@dnooman](#):
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> …Speaking of which, is anyone else wondering what he’s up to, where he is, what else he knows?

Count me among the wonderers. Maybe he & Michael are having a tea party out in the woods.

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### Author: ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/172 "2006-02-16T18:58:22Z")

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> [@BobT](#):
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> What are non-metallic metals?

I heard “non-metallic metals” too. Such things do exist…according to Google anyway. Hafta listen again tonight.

How would non-metallic metals be affected by the huge electromagnet that the Losties now live with?

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/173 "2006-02-16T19:04:17Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> The bird looked like a [hieroglyphic hawk](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gnosticassociationny.org/Hieroglyphic-t01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gnosticassociationny.org/hawk_hierloglyph.htm&h=47&w=51&sz=2&tbnid=H0_rhnpuF2Ka5M:&tbnh=47&tbnw=51&hl=en&start=24&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhieroglyphic%2Bbird%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN) to me. The other one could be a hieroglypic feather. Not sure what the significance is though.

They sure looked like Egyptian hierogliphics to me, but I haven’t done an HD freeze-frame yet. I figure one the folks over at [tailsection.com](http://tailsection.com) will have it all figure out this AM.

Great, great episode. I don’t believe Balloon-Man for a second. He did look awfully smug at the end.

Who was the girl in the photo? I thought it looked like Kate. And I’m sure there will be ramifications for killing Kermit.

Next week: The Medicine Hatch!!

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### Author: ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/174 "2006-02-16T19:13:29Z")

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here’s my list of possibilities for not pressing the button:

1. launches a doomsday device that wipes the planet clean.

2. activates an island-destroying weapon of some sort.

3. initiates some sort of communication device that calls Opal to say hello.

Any others?

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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/175 "2006-02-16T19:21:35Z")

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Folks, he most definitely said “non-metallic minerals.”

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/176 "2006-02-16T19:31:26Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Next week: The Medicine Hatch!!

March, actually.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/177 "2006-02-16T19:35:43Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> here’s my list of possibilities for not pressing the button:
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> 1. launches a doomsday device that wipes the planet clean.
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> 2. activates an island-destroying weapon of some sort.
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> 3. initiates some sort of communication device that calls Opal to say hello.
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> Any others?

Fires up the auto-kitchen, which whips up a lovely Denver omelette.

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### Author: ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/178 "2006-02-16T19:44:16Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Fires up the auto-kitchen, which whips up a lovely Denver omelette.

Releases the Gilligan Clone Army?

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/179 "2006-02-16T20:07:24Z")

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> [@Ass For A Hat](#):
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> I heard “non-metallic metals” too. Such things do exist…according to Google anyway. Hafta listen again tonight.

I thought I heard “non-metallic metals”, said “WTF?” replayed it with closed captioning and it said “non-metallic minerals”

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-14-one-of-them/344668/180 "2006-02-16T20:12:27Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> March, actually.

I didn’t even notice. Is it just a one week delay, or longer?

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