# Lost 2.15: "Maternity Leave"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 1, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631 "2006-03-01T17:12:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/181 "2006-03-03T05:15:09Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> I swear, everytime I watch this show I come up more confused.
>
> _ **Beards** _
> Bluebeard has a fake beard. Why, in the middle of a deserted island, would one even have costumes? And why did he feel the need to don a costume when he kidnapped Waaaaaalt off the raft and meet with Jack? Was he afraid that someone would recognize him?
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> Ecko. Okay, the two little things he cut off. Beards are symbolic in some cultures (e.g. Hassidic Jews and Muslims), but I have no earthly idea why he took out a knife and removed the two twirly things in front of Hale.
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> And then we have Locke. I noticed last night that he was unshaven, as was the perpetually unshaven Jack. Does this have any significance? I have no freaking idea.
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> _ **Parent Issues** _
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> Michael loses Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt and searches for him.
> Rousseau loses Alex and is searching for her.
> The others steal Claire’s baby in vitro and the others go searching for her.
> Jack is searching for his dad.
> Locke searched, and found (and was bitterly disappointed by), his biological dad.
> Kate kills her step-dad and has a strained relationship with her mother.
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> From previews, we find out that Sun may be pregnant. Has Jin even been back long enough for her to be pregnant by him? :dubious:
>
> Okay, do we have parent issues or what?
In regard to Jin and Sun,
A few eps ago, Hurley gave them the thumbs up, I believe, when he saw them come out of their tent in the morning, smiling away. But then, I don’t know how much time has actually passed and how she could figure she was pregnant so quickly. Who else might have impregnated her while Jin was away on the raft? Hmm…
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/182 "2006-03-03T05:26:34Z")
For those who haven’t read it Entertainment Weekly offers this theory for what it’s all about:
[spoiler]The Dharma Institute was set up to study a bunch of different fringe scientific ideas. Some of the experiments involved psychic powers, cloning, nanotechnology, etc. The scientists were a little peculiar but basically ordinary people.
One of the experiments was a Skinner type box where they performed pyschology experiments. They created a controlled environment to isolate the subject and stress him or her with random occurences and observe the results. But unfortunately the results overlapped with the psychic experiments. Somebody with telepathic powers was reading the stress that everybody was experiencing and snapped. And this breakdown triggered a huge leap in his psychic abilities. He was now insane and possessed huge mental powers.
But the breakdown also injured him in some way. He may be in a coma or dying or his brain may have been imprinted on a computer. So we have a powerful psychic whose sanity is weak and who may be lacking conscious control of his powers.
So the psychic is trying to cure himself by getting access to a new body. He wants Aaron so he can imprint his mind into Aaron’s newborn brain. He had to contain Walt because Walt’s own psychic powers might have detected his plans. The Others are the original staff on the island whose minds are being influenced by the psychic. His control isn’t absolute but he can steer people in the directions he wants them to go. The beginning signs of imbalance we’re seeing in the castaways is the beginnings of his control exerting itself over them. In a year or so, they’ll all be others as well working on whatever project the psychic wants them to do and thinking they’re good people doing what they want to do.[/spoiler]
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/183 "2006-03-03T05:26:40Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> In regard to Jin and Sun,
>
> Who else might have impregnated her while Jin was away on the raft? Hmm…
I believe I may have done it with my mind.I have an _extremely_ fertile imagination.
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### Author:  [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/184 "2006-03-03T05:31:05Z")
**RE: feeding the baby**
C’mon, folks! Babies were artificially fed long before rubber nipples were invented. You soak a cloth in milk (canned, dried, or ranch dressing will do in a pinch) and let the kid suck it off. Dip, suck, repeat. OR you just feed him via cup, which is done in most parts of the world even with newborns.
It’s possible for non-biological mothers to breastfeed, but it usually takes a whole lot of artificial hormone monkey business.
**RE: vaccines curing after exposure**
Yeah, I cursed at the TV for this error, too. A “Vaccine” provokes an immune response in the body which causes the body to produce it’s own antibodies to an infectious agent. The “pattern” for these antibodies is then present for years, so whenever the person is exposed to the infection, the body “remembers” and makes those antibodies again. Years, I say. You do not have to keep taking vaccines daily for weeks or months.
Now, all this could have been avoided if they had just called it an “Immunization”, which is the actual antibodies themselves which you inject. These only last a few weeks before they die off, and they don’t “teach” your body how to make them. They are also useful after exposure. (So any \*Lost \*writers lurking here, and I know you are, just change one little word and make us all happy!)
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/185 "2006-03-03T08:26:04Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> For those who haven’t read it Entertainment Weekly offers this theory for what it’s all about…
Sounds like the ubiquitous influence of Philip K. Dick. 😃
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### Author:  [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/186 "2006-03-03T13:32:19Z")
I think PDiddy could get a nice chorus by sampling the nervous parents of the show Lost.
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_,
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_,
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_
Picture PDiddy dancing, accompanied by some thumping base.
It’s in your head now, isn’t it?
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_,
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_,
_Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
_My BAY-BAY!_
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/187 "2006-03-03T13:49:17Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> For those who haven’t read it Entertainment Weekly offers this theory for what it’s all about:
First of all, I thought all magical and parapsychic explanations were supposed to definitely be inaccurate?
Anyways, while EW’s guess could be considered “accurate”, so could any theory that anyone else comes up with.
Once you start throwing in psychic powers, souls, psychic souls, psychic souls with powers…well, you can make anything fit.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/188 "2006-03-03T13:52:13Z")
> [@WhyNot](#):
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> **RE: feeding the baby**
>
> C’mon, folks! Babies were artificially fed long before rubber nipples were invented. You soak a cloth in milk (canned, dried, or ranch dressing will do in a pinch) and let the kid suck it off. Dip, suck, repeat. OR you just feed him via cup, which is done in most parts of the world even with newborns.
Umm… **WhyNot** …what milk are you referring to? Where’s this milk coming from?
-Joe
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### Author:  [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/189 "2006-03-03T13:56:47Z")
> [@middleman](#):
>
> I think PDiddy could get a nice chorus by sampling the nervous parents of the show Lost.
>
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_,
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_
>
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_,
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_
>
> Picture PDiddy dancing, accompanied by some thumping base.
>
> It’s in your head now, isn’t it?
>
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_,
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_
>
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_,
> _Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllltttttt!_
> _My BAY-BAY!_
The only thing missing are a few “My boy” 's and “My son” 's.
Seriously…Michael was the first character to get on my last nerve with his hit-you-over-the-head-parental-emphasis, and Claire was quick to follow.
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### Author:  [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/190 "2006-03-03T15:33:44Z")
Have you all seen [this?](http://www.waaalt.com/) It’s got potential.
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### Author:  [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/191 "2006-03-03T17:27:29Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Umm… **WhyNot** …what milk are you referring to? Where’s this milk coming from?
>
> -Joe
From the hatch, same as any other food Jack and Locke are enjoying - like I said, canned, dried or whatever. Whatisname had milk on his cereal, didn’t he? From coconuts, if nowhere else. (Shredded coconut squeezed in water). Babies don’t need milk in a pinch - they can have any food pureed and strained. Yes, breastmilk would be best, but the little tyke won’t starve if his irritating mother defects to the Others or gets her head blown off (pleasepleaseplease!)
Heck, if it’ll get Claire to stop whining, I’ll balloon to the island and breastfeed Turniphead myself!
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/192 "2006-03-03T17:29:52Z")
> [@WhyNot](#):
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> From the hatch, same as any other food Jack and Locke are enjoying
You know, that’s something that’s been annoying me. They had enough food for one big blast of a party, and then it was all supposed to be gone, and now Hurley has potatoe chips and ranch dressing, and Locke and the rest have fruit… I was wondering, when I saw Locke washing a whole sinkful of dishes, what exactly they had been doing that got them dirty, because they sure don’t have that much food to put in them…
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/193 "2006-03-03T17:55:16Z")
> [@middleman](#):
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> What kind of safe has thin doors?
It’s actually a locker, not a safe. I’d say the thin metal doors are fairly appropriate.
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### Author:  [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/194 "2006-03-03T18:37:41Z")
[spoiler]Right now…Sun might be pregnant.
Which means her period has to be at least a few days late, which means she most likely conceived somewhere between 2 and 5 weeks previously (that’s allowing everything from “hmm, my period didn’t arrive today” to “Oh shit, I haven’t had a period for 7 weeks”).
So, that means the father could be Jin-while they were still talking, before he got on the raft.
Some third party (Michael?).
Or Jin again, just after he got back from the others, once they’d made up.
I told you the contraceptives would have run out after 2 months…[/spoiler]
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### Author:  [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/195 "2006-03-03T20:26:44Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#):
>
> You know, that’s something that’s been annoying me. They had enough food for one big blast of a party, and then it was all supposed to be gone, and now Hurley has potatoe chips and ranch dressing, and Locke and the rest have fruit… I was wondering, when I saw Locke washing a whole sinkful of dishes, what exactly they had been doing that got them dirty, because they sure don’t have that much food to put in them…
And leaving the water running while he washed them, too! Can their water system possibly be that good? I haven’t seen any cisterns around.
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### Author:  [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/196 "2006-03-03T20:33:09Z")
IrishGirl, I put that info in spoiler tags because it was gleaned from the preview for next week. Not sure if others would appreciate knowing that. 🙂
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### Author:  [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/197 "2006-03-03T20:55:28Z")
So, so, sorry, I swear I meant to spoiler that (this will teach me to drink wine and post simultaneously). I will report the bad post and hopefully a nice Mod will retroactively spoiler it or delete it for me.
This is a spoiler, actually.
Does everyone know about the photo from the _Lost_ set by the make a wish foundation kid? The one which shows the downed balloon canopy with the smiley face?
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/198 "2006-03-03T22:14:31Z")
From the OP:
> [@](#):
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> Information about this week’s episode’s “next week” teasers will be unboxed.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/199 "2006-03-03T23:08:31Z")
> [@Alias](#):
>
> Have you all seen [this?](http://www.waaalt.com/) It’s got potential.
Somebody had to do it! That’s pretty funny.
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### Author:  [@mbacko1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbacko1)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/200 "2006-03-04T03:47:20Z")
I always figured that the injections the man in the hatch was giving himself were a stimulant to keep himself awake so that he could push the button.
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