# Lost 2.15:  "Maternity Leave"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 1, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631 "2006-03-01T17:12:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/101 "2006-03-02T15:52:59Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Yep – and I believe her last appearance on “Malcolm” was when she came back and was constantly wearing jackets and baggy clothes to hide her new boobs. And when Malcolm and Reese found out about them, they were competing for her attention.  
> Yep, she grew up good… 😉

And Reese’s plan to see 'em culminated in…

DD-Day.

Gawddamn that one was funny.

-Joe

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/102 "2006-03-02T16:06:48Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Yep – and I believe her last appearance on “Malcolm” was when she came back and was constantly wearing jackets and baggy clothes to hide her new boobs. And when Malcolm and Reese found out about them, they were competing for her attention.  
> Yep, she grew up good… 😉

Until I can find screen caps of this ep - did she get a nose job?

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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/103 "2006-03-02T16:16:05Z")

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When Ethan and possibly-Bluebeard are talking, possibly-Bluebeard worries “What am I going to say to _him_”.

When Desmond first met Locke, he asks “Are you _him_”?

Significant? Or am I reading too much into a pronoun?

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/104 "2006-03-02T16:25:19Z")

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> [@tanstaafl](#):
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> When Ethan and possibly-Bluebeard are talking, possibly-Bluebeard worries “What am I going to say to _him_”.
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> When Desmond first met Locke, he asks “Are you _him_”?
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> Significant? Or am I reading too much into a pronoun?

I thought the “him” in Desmond’s case was his replacement.

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/105 "2006-03-02T16:28:30Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> defcon penguin

This will never not be funny.

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/106 "2006-03-02T16:35:13Z")

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Aha! As I suspected, the baby’s plane mobile is made up of [Oceanic](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=980&pos=378) planes.

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### Author: ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/107 "2006-03-02T16:38:36Z")

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While I liked the episode in general, if ever again hear the term “my baby” said in a plaintive Australian accent, I might actually shoot my television. “Desperate New Mommy” shows make my head hurt.

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/108 "2006-03-02T16:49:19Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> One thing that strikes me is that if the girl from Malcolm in the middle was Alex, and she helped Claire escape, what is she doing firing a gun at Sawyer?
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> Maybe she was supposed to help Claire escape. Because I had the same thought as **ivylass**. If alex had been raised by an other (heh), it would seem she would be loyal to them.

I see a difference between wanting Claire to escape so she won’t be murdered for her baby and not wanting Sawyer to escape the _island_ and tell people what they’ve got going. There’s also the possibility that they’re seeing Alex as a host for the next generation, and supporting the killing of host mothers is not something she’d be happy to get behind.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/109 "2006-03-02T16:49:37Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Had to be.
> 
> When he was deliberately being concealed behind the door I said to the girlfriend:
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> Me: That sounds exactly like bluebeard.  
> Her: Bluebeard?  
> Me: The guy with the beard who stole WAAAAAAAALT  
> (seconds pass - we see his face)  
> Me: Damn, I guess not. But he sounded exactly like him.
> 
> I’ve got a pretty good aural memory - and ears that can hear the bubbles popping in a Pepsi can from across the room. It’s actually quite annoying.
> 
> -Joe

I went thru exactly the same process. Zeke’s voice is very distinctive, but w/o the beard and scruffy clothes, I would’ve never recognized him. I did say to my Lost-mates, though, that maybe the beard was fake…

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### Author: ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/110 "2006-03-02T16:50:19Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> While I liked the episode in general, if ever again hear the term “my baby” said in a plaintive Australian accent, I might actually shoot my television. “Desperate New Mommy” shows make my head hurt.

The word “Dingoes” popped into my head about a dozen times last night.

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/111 "2006-03-02T16:52:35Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> The word “Dingoes” popped into my head about a dozen times last night.

Maybe a dingo ate your bay-bee.

-Joe

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/112 "2006-03-02T17:04:45Z")

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[Clean-shaven Man](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=980&pos=399).  
[Zeke/Bluebeard](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=887&pos=639). Anybody got a link to a clearer picture?

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/113 "2006-03-02T17:11:36Z")

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> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> Until I can find screen caps of this ep - did she get a nose job?

I guess [not](http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=980&pos=655).

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### Author: ![jaderabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/114 "2006-03-02T17:21:41Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> So…
> 
> Henry _Gale_?
> 
> Came over in a _Balloon_?
> 
> And wasn’t Dorothy’s uncle named “Henry” too?
> 
> That’s just too…
> 
> It’s too.
> 
> -FrL-

Yep. [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/)](Uncle Henry to Dorothy Gale.) f he’s a normal person with a name like that, then the writers are just being spiteful to us.

But really, what man with a brain (and he doesn’t look like a scarecrow) would say “I’m from Minnesota” to the two people with accents when they find him in the jungle? You usually identify your country first. And these days, it’s smarter to tell them you’re Canadian.

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/115 "2006-03-02T17:25:29Z")

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> [@jaderabbit](#):
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> And these days, it’s smarter to tell them you’re Canadian.

not in this case… that’s where Ethan said he was from…

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/116 "2006-03-02T17:27:06Z")

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> [@jaderabbit](#):
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> But really, what man with a brain (and he doesn’t look like a scarecrow) would say “I’m from Minnesota” to the two people with accents when they find him in the jungle? You usually identify your country first. And these days, it’s smarter to tell them you’re Canadian.

Americans always assume people know they are Americans.

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### Author: ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/117 "2006-03-02T17:31:06Z")

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> [@jaderabbit](#):
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> But really, what man with a brain (and he doesn’t look like a scarecrow) would say “I’m from Minnesota” to the two people with accents when they find him in the jungle? You usually identify your country first. And these days, it’s smarter to tell them you’re Canadian.

I would absolutely tell people I’m from Texas first, and emphasize that Bush is really from Connecticut and I’m part of the 40% of Texans who voted against him anyway, but Minnesotans may not think of their state as having a national identity the way Texans do.

Locke really shouldn’t go crashing dishes around where Henry can hear it, especially since that’s exactly the reaction he was going for. That was also a really girly little hissy fit.

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### Author: ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/118 "2006-03-02T17:30:54Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> While I liked the episode in general, if ever again hear the term “my baby” said in a plaintive Australian accent, I might actually shoot my television. “Desperate New Mommy” shows make my head hurt.

Me too. She’s easy enough on the eyes, but the constant peril of Claire and her baby are too cliche.

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### Author: ![jaderabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/119 "2006-03-02T17:33:10Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> While I liked the episode in general, if ever again hear the term “my baby” said in a plaintive Australian accent, I might actually shoot my television. “Desperate New Mommy” shows make my head hurt.

Yeah, it really started getting to me last night.

Claire: Sun, can you watch my baby for a while?

Sun: A mother should not leave her baby.

Claire: What do you know about it? Are you a mother? Because I’ve been one for SEVERAL WEEKS NOW, and I learned a whole lot before then as A NAIVE 20-YEAR-OLD WAITRESS TRYING TO GIVE THE BABY AWAY.

Sun: I bow to your vast experience, but aren’t the baby’s only food sources attached to your chest? Should you really be taking those away from him?

Claire: AOHHH MY GOD! WOULD EVERYONE STOP TREATING ME LIKE I’M HYSTERICAL! I HAVE l337 PREGNANCY-INDUCED PLOT-CONVENIENT PSYCHIC ABILITIES!

Sun: Well, I guess I’ll find out more about that last part in the next new episode.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-15-maternity-leave/346631/120 "2006-03-02T17:33:55Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Yep. That would explain why the refrigerator got knocked over.

Heck, Hurley making a beeline for the last of the ranch dressing would also explain the refrigerator getting knocked over… 😃

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