# Lost 2.16: "The Whole Truth" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 22, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440 "2006-03-22T16:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/21 "2006-03-22T20:54:27Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > OK, I see it now. Same eye color, too. Thanks, **Honey**. šŸ™‚ I was wondering how you could see the eye color from that picture. Then I discovered that you can click the picture 2 times and it gets huge. Nothing gets by me. No sir. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/22 "2006-03-22T21:04:58Z")
BTW, if anyone wants to check out ā€œZekeā€ from still photos from the pilot episode, [here it is.](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/mrfriendly9tq-751428.jpg) What do you guys think-- is that him? Frankly, I donā€™t think it means anything even if it is. We know that Ethan was working with Zeke, and we know Ethan was there from the beginning. So what if Zeke was there, too? Itā€™s an interesting piece of trivia, but doesnā€™t tell us anything new. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/23 "2006-03-22T21:07:03Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Am I just being paranoid? No, youā€™re not. Everyone on the SDMB does a regular search on your username so we can review your latest posts and scrutinize them for factual errors, violations of board policy, and anything else we can use in the campaign to ruin your life, steal your stuff, and strand you on a desert island with a bunch of people who would be really really hot except that they probably donā€™t smell so great and besides they all behave incredibly stupidly on a depressingly regular basis. So from that perspective, this post was _fantastic._ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/24 "2006-03-22T21:10:04Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > BTW, if anyone wants to check out ā€œZekeā€ from still photos from the pilot episode, [here it is.](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/mrfriendly9tq-751428.jpg) What do you guys think-- is that him? Nah, I think thatā€™s a random older dude. I think the hairlineā€™s different. But if it _is_ Zeke, then props to him for at least taking the trouble to fake an injury, which I canā€™t recall either Ethan or Goodman bothering to do. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/25 "2006-03-22T21:11:39Z")
According to an interview with Daniel Dae Kim, in tonightā€™s episode: Thereā€™s a long scene with him and Sun in bed where he has his shirt off. Ladies, you may commence drooling now. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/26 "2006-03-22T21:12:16Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > BTW, if anyone wants to check out ā€œZekeā€ from still photos from the pilot episode, [here it is.](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/mrfriendly9tq-751428.jpg) What do you guys think-- is that him? > > Frankly, I donā€™t think it means anything even if it is. We know that Ethan was working with Zeke, and we know Ethan was there from the beginning. So what if Zeke was there, too? Itā€™s an interesting piece of trivia, but doesnā€™t tell us anything new. Does anyone have a picture of Zeke from the Claire flashback episode for comparison? ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/27 "2006-03-22T21:12:55Z")
Sorry, forgot to give a link for that article: [Interview with Daniel Dae Kim in yesterdayā€™s USA Today](http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-03-21-lost-kim_x.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/28 "2006-03-22T21:13:50Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > BTW, if anyone wants to check out ā€œZekeā€ from still photos from the pilot episode, [here it is.](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/mrfriendly9tq-751428.jpg) What do you guys think-- is that him? > > Frankly, I donā€™t think it means anything even if it is. We know that Ethan was working with Zeke, and we know Ethan was there from the beginning. So what if Zeke was there, too? Itā€™s an interesting piece of trivia, but doesnā€™t tell us anything new. I am good at facial recognition. I would say no itā€™s not but those pictures are kind of blurry. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/29 "2006-03-22T21:15:12Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Does anyone have a picture of Zeke from the Claire flashback episode for comparison? From Johnā€™s link the one on the right is from the Claire episode. The blurry pictures on the left are from episode 1. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/30 "2006-03-22T21:17:14Z")
Sorry for the triple post. To me Blurry Armholding Man looks a lot older than Mr Gainey. Looks like the eyebrows are white. And heā€™s balder. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/31 "2006-03-22T21:18:51Z")
OH MY GOD! [http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html](http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html)[It is him!](http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html). ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/32 "2006-03-22T21:23:48Z")
Well thatā€™s the ugliest link Iā€™ve ever seen that still works. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/33 "2006-03-22T21:27:54Z")
You may completely and totally disregard my last 3 posts. Thatā€™ll teach me to stop inhaling the white-out. :smack: :smack: :smack: ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/34 "2006-03-22T21:37:18Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Thatā€™ll teach me to stop inhaling the white-out. :smack: :smack: :smack: Yeah, you should switch to Marks-A-Lot. Much better! ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/35 "2006-03-22T21:53:50Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > To me Blurry Armholding Man looks a lot older than Mr Gainey. Looks like the eyebrows are white. And heā€™s balder. Iā€™m with you. Plus there doesnā€™t seem to be much point in it, as **John Mace** said. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/36 "2006-03-22T21:57:20Z")
Oh dear, oh dear. Lost is up against American Idol tonight. Whatever shall I do? I donā€™t have one oā€™ them fancy DVR contraptions. šŸ˜• Oh right, the results shows are useless anyway! Tune in to Lost, switch over to AI from 9:25 to 9:30, then back to Lost. Problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/37 "2006-03-22T22:07:33Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > OH MY GOD! > > [http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html](http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html)[It is him!](http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-15-191.html). BTW, thatā€™s just a blow-up of the ā€œclearā€ picture in the link I gave. You have to compare to the ā€œblurryā€ ones. What would be best would be to find that clip from a DVD and do a freez frame-- you should get a much sharper image than any of those still photos. I just linked to that as an FYI. Iā€™m not interested enough to spend the time comparing to a DVD (which Iā€™d have to borrow from someone anyway). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/38 "2006-03-22T22:38:48Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Thatā€™ll teach me to stop inhaling the white-out. _ā€” scribbling furiously at bottom of list ā€”_ ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/39 "2006-03-22T22:43:27Z")
I have not looked at a single word posted here yet, but one thing on my mind lately is: Where is Desmond? Never mind Alex or Waaaaallllt. I just want to know what became of Hatch Guy. ---
**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440/40 "2006-03-22T23:11:11Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I have not looked at a single word posted here yet, but one thing on my mind lately is: Where is Desmond? Never mind Alex or Waaaaallllt. I just want to know what became of Hatch Guy. I think he made it off the island and landed on ā€˜24ā€™. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-16-the-whole-truth/349440.md?page=3)