# Lost 2.17: "Lockdown"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 29, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423 "2006-03-29T16:50:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/1 "2006-03-29T16:50:14Z")
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Once again, we have 3 Lostaways going off to see the wizard. This time it’s the unlikely mix of Sayid, Ana-Lucia and Charlie. And last we say them it was raining— never a good sign on The Island. Henry Gale is toying with Jack and Locke, and Sun thinks she’s pregnant-- also not a good thing on The Island. I think our friends are in for some rough times ahead. Meanwhile, Desmond has been playing German Intelligence Agent on _24_, so who knows when we’ll see him again. At any rate, once Henry Gale finds out about Sun, I think we’re in for another kidnapping. How it is that Jack and Locke don’t worry about that is beyond me.
For the true _Lost_ junkies, I’ve added some new, external links at the end of this post. Check 'em out, but just beware of spoilers.
From the ABC “Lost” website:
“Lockdown” When the hatch suddenly takes on a life of its own, Locke is forced to enlist the help of an unlikely ally. Meanwhile, Ana Lucia, Sayid and Charlie go off into the jungle to find out the truth about Henry.
Some useful Café Society links are given below:
Thread index for Season 1 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277083) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278382) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279542) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280792) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=281998) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283328) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284665) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=285925) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=287237) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289514) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290718) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=295320) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296591) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297760) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301602) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302710) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304986) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309511) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310613) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315048) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317139) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318051)
Thread index for Season 2 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=335991) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337167) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338307) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339366) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=340432) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343878) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=345144) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=346239) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347177) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353542) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354691) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=355716) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357834) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359015) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=361048) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363982)
[The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221)
[Official “Lost” Questions Thread, Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542)
[Official “Lost” Questions Thread, Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040)
Here are some interesting external links:
[The Lost Report](http://hometown.aol.com/qcotms/myhomepage/index.html): A very well written summary of the most current episode often containing interesting insights. I don’t think you’ll find spoilers.
[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!
[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).
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### Author:  [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/2 "2006-03-29T17:15:51Z")
I dont have any Lost tidbits to add yet…except to say I cant wait for this ep, but I wanted to give a big thanks to **john mace** for doing this thread each week! I love reading thru it on Thursday mornings!
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### Author:  [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/3 "2006-03-29T17:47:44Z")
I have a feeling I missed an episode somewhere, what with all the unusual events that happened in my life, and ABC playing silly buggers with reruns. The last one I saw was Sayid the torturer. Has there been one since then?
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/4 "2006-03-29T18:47:20Z")
> [@Barbarian](#):
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> I have a feeling I missed an episode somewhere, what with all the unusual events that happened in my life, and ABC playing silly buggers with reruns. The last one I saw was Sayid the torturer. Has there been one since then?
Yes. Read “The Lost Report” link in my OP. That will fill you in. But do it quickly, because it’ll be gone tomorrow.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/5 "2006-03-29T18:48:54Z")
Actually, I think you missed 2 episodes: 15 and 16.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/6 "2006-03-29T19:49:02Z")
So will we finally learn how Locke ended up in a wheel chair?
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### Author:  [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/7 "2006-03-29T20:01:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> So will we finally learn how Locke ended up in a wheel chair?
Locke was in a wheel chair?
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### Author:  [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/8 "2006-03-29T20:04:20Z")
Just an observation of the show overall that maybe somebody already mentioned last year:
It seems that all the main characters on the island are people that have no one to go back home to. Or no one that they would miss.
Jack- Father’s dead, estranged mother, divorced wife. No other family.
Claire- Single mom with no one back home to go to.
Locke- Divoced. Has no one else.
Shannon & Boone- Only had eachother. No other family to miss.
Sun & Jin- Only had eachother. Neither of them like her father. Any other family?
Sawyer- Lone wanderer. No family.
Charlie- Estranged mother and brother.
Sayid- Lost his only love. Rest of family dead?
Mr. Echo- Brother is dead. No other family.
Ana Lucia- No husband or kids.
Kate- On the run. Her only love is dead.
Hurley- Only had his mother but didn’t care for her much anyway.
Walt & Michael- Mother is dead. Only have eachother.
Bernard and wife- Only have eachother. No kids?
In fact, the only mention of anyone missing someone back home that I can remember was the children from the episode “The other 48 days” before they were kidnapped saying that their mom and dad were waiting for them in L.A.
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### Author:  [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/9 "2006-03-29T20:15:38Z")
I’m not too sure of that list of yours:
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> Jack- Father’s dead, estranged mother, divorced wife. No other family.
I’m not sure we can say Jack was “estranged” from his mother. They had one fight before he went off to find his dad. Beyond that I don’t think we’ve seen enough of their relationship to know.
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> Shannon & Boone- Only had eachother. No other family to miss.
Boone ran the wedding company for his mom. Presumably she would miss him. Shannon - not so much.
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> Sun & Jin- Only had eachother. Neither of them like her father. Any other family?
Jin’s dad probably misses him.
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> Sayid- Lost his only love. Rest of family dead?
Mention was made of his dad. We don’t know the relationship or his current status.
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> Ana Lucia- No husband or kids.
Mom probably misses her.
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> Hurley- Only had his mother but didn’t care for her much anyway.
I didn’t get that impression at all.
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> Walt & Michael- Mother is dead. Only have eachother.
Michael was on the phone with his mother just before the plane took off for LA. Presumably they have a funtional relationship.
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### Author:  [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/10 "2006-03-29T20:19:03Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Locke was in a wheel chair?
Who’s “Locke?”
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/11 "2006-03-29T20:40:14Z")
> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#):
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> Who’s “Locke?”
Who’s anyone, really?
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### Author:  [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/12 "2006-03-29T20:57:42Z")
> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Locke- Divoced. Has no one else.
I don’t recall this. Somebody remind me, please.
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### Author:  [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/13 "2006-03-29T21:02:03Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> I don’t recall this. Somebody remind me, please.
There was Helen but they weren’t married. There was evidently a nasty breakup though.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/14 "2006-03-29T21:22:47Z")
Everyone had “family issues”, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say they have no on to go back to.
BTW, if anyone else had been watching _Invasion_, I guess it’s still on and will resume in April. Apparently there will be a season 2, as well. It’s not as good as _Lost_, but I give it a solid B.
**Dob** : Thanks. I actually enjoy doing this.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/15 "2006-03-30T02:16:26Z")
I liked Locke’s rough handling of Balloon Guy in tossing his ass back in his “cell” at the start. Looks like John realizes that Gale is pushing his buttons (regarding Jack).
And how about those observation skills of Sayid and Ana-Lucia? They can’t see that big shiny red thing in the trees until they are right under it?
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### Author:  [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/16 "2006-03-30T02:23:01Z")
Gale’s voice sounded like Aahnold when he said “What happened” right before the commercial break. It was definitely not his normal accent.
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### Author:  [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/17 "2006-03-30T02:26:15Z")
By Aaahnold, I meant Arnold Schwarzenegger BTW.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/18 "2006-03-30T02:39:36Z")
> [@dnooman](#):
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> By Aaahnold, I meant Arnold Schwarzenegger BTW.
And not Arnold Jackson / Drummond, huh?
Whatchutalkinbout, Locke?!
Well, Balloon Guy just knocked himself out trying to climb the pantry shelves. I think we’ll be going to Defcon Penguin again.
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### Author:  [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/19 "2006-03-30T02:40:34Z")
Prediction:
Locke’s father is Sawyer.
The real Sawyer.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-17-lockdown/350423/20 "2006-03-30T02:45:04Z")
Jack: “When I need the guns… I’ll get the guns.”
Great line!
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