# Lost 2.18: "Dave" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 5, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441 "2006-04-05T17:48:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/101 "2006-04-06T15:14:17Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I think Libby’s attraction to Hurley and her not wanting to tell Hurley where they have seen eachother is plausible. Did you see the last-second cut to a distasteful look on her face as they walked away from the cliff? She had a sour-puss look as if a left-over bit of Hurley’s peanut butter were transferred in that most heinous kiss (shudder). ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/102 "2006-04-06T15:19:15Z")
OOH! I remembered the line that was in this episode that mirrored a joke from last week. **UncleRojelio** made a joke about Tattoo seeing Da Plane and Sawyer made the same joke this week. Nice one, Unc. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/103 "2006-04-06T15:21:49Z")
Correction: it was **Monstre** who made that joke. Good one, Monstre. (Sorry to get your hopes up, Unc.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/104 "2006-04-06T15:24:45Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > So…did anyone else catch that Balderella said, when leaving the hospital, “See you in another life”? > > Wasn’t that Desmond’s catch phrase? Yes, I did! But I thought he said it before he fell off the cliff on the island, not in the flashback. BTW, he ended it what “brother”, just like Desmond did. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/105 "2006-04-06T15:33:39Z")
My WAG regarding Pseudo-Henry Gale: Pseudo-Henry Gale IS the true leader, Keyser Soze-style. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/106 "2006-04-06T15:36:32Z")
Good call on Eko building a church. That makes sense. Now, back to Henry Gale: I’ve been thinking all along that he was captured on purpose. He must’ve had orders from “him” to finish the job that Ethan left undone-- putting toegether a list of who’s naughty and nice. I do think he let the counter go to zero w/o pushing the button otherwise he wouldn’t have known about the hieroglyphics. He also knows about the magnet since no one would think that a magnet makes a “sound”. He probably knows a secret escape route, probably from the bunker, but I still think Locke will end up helping him escape. One more thing about Sawyer: It’s interesting that he got whipped by Jack last week psychologically and then this week by Hurley phsysically. My guess is this will lead him to lash out against the rest of the crew in some fashion. Maybe he’ll try and pull some kind of Collumbine since he has all the gones and is now the ultimate outcast. I was also wondering, as someone mentioned earlier, if there is significance in the fact that Hurley and Libby have the most solid pre-crash connection (except for the married couples, Boone and Shannon, and Kate and the Marshall, of course). But the writers are definitely playing with us in trying to make us think Hurley might be the center of it all-- I think you could make a case for any of the main Lostaways to be the center of everything. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/107 "2006-04-06T15:37:33Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > OOH! I remembered the line that was in this episode that mirrored a joke from last week. > > **UncleRojelio** made a joke about Tattoo seeing Da Plane and Sawyer made the same joke this week. > > Nice one, Unc. Thanks. That is the first time I have ever even remotely predicted anything concerning this show. I better quit while I’m ahead. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/108 "2006-04-06T15:42:12Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > OK, IMO Henry’s lying. What the hell does a “big magnet” sound like? Perhaps electromagnets make a sound, but I have no idea what sound that might be. Would it be very frightening? I think he’s playing with Locke’s mind and he knows a hell of a lot more than he’s letting on… Well, lots of people on-line were saying that it sounded “like a big magnet” back when we last went defcon penguin. How do we all know what a big magnet sounds like? Me, I think it sounds like an MRI machine warming up, which I \*have \*heard. And that’s a big magnet! (My 13 year old blurted out “Dave’s not here, man!” during the show, which prompted a damn quick interrogation in my living room last night! “What did you say? How do you know that line? That’s it, you’re going into cryogenic storage until I’m in a retirement home! No more teenage years for you!”) ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/109 "2006-04-06T15:43:07Z")
My favorite line was Sawyer saying that he had enough food to open a mini-mart. Then wondering aloud if Sayid needed a job. Only Sawyer could say something that racist and have people still like him. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/110 "2006-04-06T15:45:44Z")
Just occured to me that possibly the “big clunking magnet noises” that were made both this time the clock got close and the prior time… Perhaps this is opening the tunnels between the hatches and ‘?’… after all, those noises appear to be different than the lockdown, since the lockdown didnt occur the previous time. Perhaps the ‘execute’ with the numbers is to prevent access to/from ‘?’ as well as being a test… or maybe it drops the cloaking device. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/111 "2006-04-06T15:46:02Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Now, back to Henry Gale: I’ve been thinking all along that he was captured on purpose. He must’ve had orders from “him” to finish the job that Ethan left undone-- putting toegether a list of who’s naughty and nice. I do think he let the counter go to zero w/o pushing the button otherwise he wouldn’t have known about the hieroglyphics. He also knows about the magnet since no one would think that a magnet makes a “sound”. He probably knows a secret escape route, probably from the bunker, but I still think Locke will end up helping him escape. I agree that he was sent on purpose. But am I the only one who thinks it is plausible that Gale, being one of the Others, knows full well what the hatches are for and what they do already? So he could have pressed the button but still knows what happens when you don’t, so he freaked Locke out by telling him he doesn’t need to press it at all. As others here have pointed out that makes Locke question himself and his purpose here. If Gale can convince Locke that he is needed elsewhere maybe Gale and Locke will leave for the Others on their own accord. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/112 "2006-04-06T15:50:47Z")
Here’s an idea. Maybe Libby is working for Dharma and she was in the hospital checking up on Leonard. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/113 "2006-04-06T15:53:32Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Correction: it was **Monstre** who made that joke. > > Good one, Monstre. > > (Sorry to get your hopes up, Unc.) See, I’m so confused now I can’t remember what I’ve typed and what I’ve written! ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/114 "2006-04-06T16:09:32Z")
Sorry, Uncle. You had quoted Monstre, who had made the Tattoo joke. I didn’t see that in my effort to post in this thread. I apologize for any pain and suffering this has brought to you and your family. However, your post DID talk about how someone must have seen the plane. Sawyer also discussed that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/115 "2006-04-06T17:15:27Z")
So, am I the only person who heard Not Henry refer to the head honcho as “Scott?” ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/116 "2006-04-06T17:25:36Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, am I the only person who heard Not Henry refer to the head honcho as “Scott?” I just watched the episode over again and didn’t hear it. Sorry. I liked the episode, I’m glad to see more of Hurley. I knew immediately Dave wasn’t real ala robe and slippers. So they didn’t trick me. What tricked me out though was the possibility of Hurley jumping off. I can believe the Libby/Hurley relationship, I think it is genuine and that us Lost fans are reading too deeply looking for the underhanded writers latest trick. PseudoGale needs an Emmy for this role, he does phenomenal. What I didn’t like was Sayid letting AL get him in an arm lock when he’s about to shoot PseudoGale. I think that he would have been ready to fight her with his military training. She was loudly protesting his count down and it seemed all too likely she would intervene. I dunno, just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/117 "2006-04-06T17:28:10Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > What will Locke do now? Will he push the button the next time? From the look of the Canadian previews Locke is trying to draw the map from memory and when he can’t he won’t press the button and will lay down in the main area again (out of the way of the door this time). As for the magnet thing, we were saying that because when Jack first wandered in the hatch the key around his neck was pulled at the humming wall. Thus, an electromagnet. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/118 "2006-04-06T17:32:26Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, am I the only person who heard Not Henry refer to the head honcho as “Scott?” I missed that. I’m obviously the only one who thinks the armory room door opening and closing sounds just like the Black Smoke monster. Exact same screeching and ratcheting sound. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/119 "2006-04-06T17:33:18Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > Did anyone else notice Dave say, “pretty sneaky Leonard.” when he beat Hurley at Connect 4? > > In the old commercials for Connect 4, the classic line was the kid going, “pretty sneaky Sis” when she connected on him. Ooooh, good catch! I’d totally forgotten about that commercial until you mentioned it… > [@McDeath the Mad](#): > > I totally called the “Good Cop”/“Bad Cop” routine of Sayid and Ana Lucia. I’m actually not minding AL anymore. I think it’s because she’s not trying to be the **Leader of the Island[sup]TM[/sup]** any more. When she’s trying to be in charge of everybody, I think that’s when she gets the most bitchy and annoying. Now she’s willing to just be a cop again, but not necessarily the captain. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/120 "2006-04-06T17:34:57Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, am I the only person who heard Not Henry refer to the head honcho as “Scott?” I thought he said “God.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441.md?page=7)