# Lost 2.18:  "Dave"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 5, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441 "2006-04-05T17:48:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/161 "2006-04-06T21:54:11Z")

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Has anyone been reading the diary pages on the ABC Lost website? The current one seems to contain a fairly major spoiler related to Not-Henry Gale, as well as a minor spoiler about something else we’ve been discussing here :).

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/162 "2006-04-06T21:54:22Z")

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> [@Flutterby](#):
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> Or I [Just know where to go](http://txvoodoo.livejournal.com/433386.html). She posts the previews for next week after every episode .

Thank you! 🆒

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/163 "2006-04-06T22:00:06Z")

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I jsut rewatched the Candadian preview, and (spoilered just in case)…

[spoiler]It looks like two people are caught in the net trap: Jack and Sayid?

We see Locke agonizing over the “?” from the door map, or maybe trying to draw the map from memory.

We also see a very evil looking smile on Henry Gale’s face.[/spoiler]

I can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/164 "2006-04-06T22:04:37Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> Thank you! 🆒

You’re welcome! 😃

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/165 "2006-04-06T22:13:25Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> Has anyone been reading the diary pages on the ABC Lost website? The current one seems to contain a fairly major spoiler related to Not-Henry Gale, as well as a minor spoiler about something else we’ve been discussing here :).

Spiler-boxing this, just in case:

[spoiler]The producers have said that those diary entries are written by folks at ABC and are not canon, nor approved by the producers, nor necessarily based on any inside information. It’s addressed in the first question on [this page](http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2006/060403b.html) (a TV Guide gossip Q&A):

From Farley\_C: Aha! The found letter on Lost’s ABC site is written by Rose, who thinks that her brother, the real Henry Gale, is in the hatch. Am I right?  
As I mentioned in the column, I asked Damon about the diary writer’s identity (which many of you want to know, I know) and he graciously gave it to me straight: “It’s on the ABC site, but we [the producers] are not necessarily generating nor fact-checking content. We are sort of aware of it, and we sort of pitched the concept, but it sort of went off the rails a couple of weeks ago, talking about Henry Gale being their brother, and you know, we were a little surprised.” So, bottom line, you can still read it, enjoy it and search for clues in it, 'cause Lord knows it’s a good, fun read. But let’s not lose sleep over it, okay?[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/166 "2006-04-06T22:16:25Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> Has anyone been reading the diary pages on the ABC Lost website? The current one seems to contain a fairly major spoiler related to Not-Henry Gale, as well as a minor spoiler about something else we’ve been discussing here :).

Spoiler box it for us. (Also, be aware that the diaries have been called into question by the creators before.)

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/167 "2006-04-06T22:28:32Z")

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Some random thoughts/replies:

LOST schedule question: next week is new but in two weeks there’s a two hour Alias? Is that right? Any idea how many eps until the season finale, and when that’ll be? Not looking forward to that despite my yen for summer in general.

I too though Sayid and AL were doing the good cop/bad cop thing, since it seemed pretty staged, but then again, who knows? Those two seem to be getting along surprisingly well.

I don’t doubt that there are magnets in the walls, but how the hell would Not!Henry know that? Jack et al know because of the key, but would some random guy hearing the humming immediately say, “Magnet!”?

My first thought upon seeing the enigmatic Mr. Eko building was, “Oh, it’s a church,” but maybe he’s just building more permanent shelters? I mean, those blue tarps are kinda flimsy, as Sawyer found out.

re: Hurley and his guilt complex about the deck collapsing-- it would be interesting if that particular flight crashed because he was on it, wouldn’t it? If Dharma Initiative took the plane down in part b/c Hurley was on it (due to his use of the lottery numbers), then it’d be very much parallel to that deck collapsing. This is not to say that Hurley was the only reason for that plane being selected for the island, but it might have been the Deep Dish that broke the camel’s back. Poor guy’s going to lose his shit if he finds out he was the reason…

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/168 "2006-04-06T22:44:06Z")

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Ok, the things I was mentioning from the diary page are:

1. Regarding Henry: The author of the diary refers to him as "my brother."2. Regarding what Eko’s building: “[Charlie] and Eko invited me to stay and help them work on this church that they are constructing.”

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/169 "2006-04-06T22:55:00Z")

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It occurs to me that the platform collapse/deaths of bystanders is precisely the sort of “bad luck” Hurley experienced after winning the lottery - except that it was clearly prior to his winning the lottery. Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/170 "2006-04-06T23:51:05Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Some random thoughts/replies:
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> LOST schedule question: next week is new but in two weeks there’s a two hour Alias? Is that right? Any idea how many eps until the season finale, and when that’ll be? Not looking forward to that despite my yen for summer in general.

From the Tailsection web site (spoiler boxed only because it contains epsiode titles):

[spoiler]LOST Season 2 Episode 18 - “Dave” (Hurley-centric)  
Airing April 5, 2006

LOST Season 2 Episode 19 - “S.O.S.” (Rose/Bernard-centric)  
Airing April 12, 2006

LOST Season 2 Episode 20 - “Two For The Road”  
Airing May 3, 2006

LOST Season 2 Episode 21 - “?”  
Airing May 10, 2006

LOST Season 2 Episode 22 - “Three Minutes”  
Airing May 17, 2006

LOST Season 2 Episode 23 - Title unknown  
Airing May 24, 2006 (Season finale)[/spoiler]

New episoded on May 3, 10, 17 and 24. The 24th (I think) is a 2hr episode-- season finale. Too bad the episodes aren’t on May 4, 8, 15… well, you get the picture. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/171 "2006-04-07T00:12:59Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> I said he was building a church in my other post, and while that seems like the obvious choice, I have a feeling it’s going to turn out to be something else - like when Locke asked Claire to help him with that thing he was building that looked like a cage, and then he flipped it over and it was a cradle for the baby.

**Charlie** _snaps fingers_: “I’ve got it! It’s a church! It’s a church, isn’t it?!”  
**Eko** : No, Charlie…  
_Eko flips the structure over_  
**Eko** : It’s a gallows. And you’re my first customer, Baby-Stealer!

😃

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/172 "2006-04-07T00:13:10Z")

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**John Mace** , thanks! We have more new eps ahead of us than I thought, which is good news.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/173 "2006-04-07T00:49:44Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> **Charlie** _snaps fingers_: “I’ve got it! It’s a church! It’s a church, isn’t it?!”  
> **Eko** : No, Charlie…  
> _Eko flips the structure over_  
> **Eko** : It’s a gallows. And you’re my first customer, Baby-Stealer!
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> 😃

Here’s the church, and here’s the steeple. Open it up, and here’s the gallows!

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/174 "2006-04-07T01:20:34Z")

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So nobody buys my WAG that Pseudo-Henry is the head honcho on the island? I think Hanzo is dead, and Henry is the top dog.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/175 "2006-04-07T01:23:17Z")

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> [@Greywolf73](#):
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> Here’s another WAG or speculation that no doubt someone else somewhere has already come up with: They’re ALL catatonic in mental wards and in some sort of bizarre group hallucination/virtual reality therapy experiment.

Or maybe they’re powering The Matrix. 🙂

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/176 "2006-04-07T02:12:33Z")

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Locke was a \*\*building inspector \*\* before he worked for the box company(remember he told Sayid’s 'friend" the house was ok?) So, maybe he was below the deck that crashed because he was inspecting the building, and that’s when he was hurt.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/177 "2006-04-07T02:17:43Z")

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> [@Cuckoorex](#):
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> So nobody buys my WAG that Pseudo-Henry is the head honcho on the island? I think Hanzo is dead, and Henry is the top dog.

Could very well be.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/178 "2006-04-07T02:24:58Z")

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> [@Cuckoorex](#):
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> So nobody buys my WAG that Pseudo-Henry is the head honcho on the island? I think Hanzo is dead, and Henry is the top dog.

I’ll buy your WAG about the fake Henry if you buy mine about the “real” Henry. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rockwell)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/179 "2006-04-07T02:41:05Z")

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Did anybody else notice that Eko dipped his hand in a tub of water and then made the “sign of the cross”? It was not the traditional way but it sure looked like he was making the self blessing.

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-18-dave/351441/180 "2006-04-07T02:55:17Z")

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I was rather surprised that Jin was able to pull an enraged Hurley off of Sawyer so easily. Sure, Jin is muscular and agile, but Hurley is so much larger than he is that I thought Hurley would just shake Jin off and go back to pounding on Sawyer. It was good to see Sawyer get his butt kicked, though.

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