# Lost 2.2: "Adrift"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [September 28, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766 "2005-09-28T00:56:56Z")
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### Author: ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/101 "2005-09-29T12:03:12Z")

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As for the re-setting clock:

My impression was that the clock was a mechanism to make sure that Desmond doesn’t leave his post. If he doesn’t check in at regular intervals and reset the clock, whoever left him there will know he has deserted (or expired) (or _escaped_?).

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### Author: ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/102 "2005-09-29T12:03:28Z")

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Alright, time to dust off the Greek Mythology texts…

Jack - Apollo  
Locke - Dionysus  
Kate - Artemis (aka Diana the Huntress)  
Michael - Hephaestus (the builder)  
Walt - ???  
Jin - ???  
Sun - ???  
Sawyer - Hades (the ‘evil’ one)  
Charlie - ???  
Hurley - Sisyphus (he’s the one who was cursed to roll a stone up a hill and then every evening the stone would roll back down to the bottom)  
Shannon - ???  
Sayid - Ares (god of war)  
Claire - Demeter ([link](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/demeter.html)

From there I lose connections. And for this to work you have to ignore all the incestuous relations that the greek gods had…

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### Author: ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/103 "2005-09-29T12:05:06Z")

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Wait a minute. Somebody has to be _Pandora_.

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### Author: ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/104 "2005-09-29T12:08:12Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Wait a minute. Somebody has to be _Pandora_.

Well I was trying to follow gender lines, but if anyone is Pandora it seems it would be Walt or Hurley.

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### Author: ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/105 "2005-09-29T12:10:07Z")

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And Pandora’s Box is the hatch?

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/106 "2005-09-29T12:17:48Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> So, is everyone assuming that the people we saw at the end are tail-sectioners?

Heck no!

Just 'cause we saw Tequila Girl (name, please?) doesn’t mean any of those others (hint, hint) are also from the plane. In the preview which aired on my TV station, she even acts surprised that anyone else but her survived 815. At least, that’s how it was edited for now.

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### Author: ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/107 "2005-09-29T12:17:49Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> And Pandora’s Box is the hatch?

If it’s the hatch, then Locke is Pandora, neither Walt nor Hurley were for opening the hatch. Hurley might be Pandora due to his use of the numbers. Or Walt for whatever his involvement in this all was.

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### Author: ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/108 "2005-09-29T12:18:35Z")

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From watching the scenes for next week’s ep, and trying to figure out Others & tail section survivors, I came across a split second shot that made me laugh. I’ll spoiler it just in case.

Hurley’s in the hatch!! Hurley to the rescue!

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### Author: ![Cat\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Cat\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Jones)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/109 "2005-09-29T12:20:57Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> And Pandora’s Box is the hatch?

Well i had that image in my head from when Hurley spotted the numbers but then … there is obvioulsy something nasty ‘out there’ already whereas evil and all manner of other nasty things were released for the first time when Pandora opened the box. OTOH she also released _hope_…

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### Author: ![Big\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@Big\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_G)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/110 "2005-09-29T12:22:50Z")

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About the snowman joke: Apparently, Michael used this joke in a card he wrote to Walt in one of the flashbacks last season. Also, Hurley told this joke on the beach last season. (Note: I got this from listening to a local morning show today).

G

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### Author: ![Cat\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Cat\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Jones)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/111 "2005-09-29T12:24:01Z")

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Did they give the answer ?

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/112 "2005-09-29T12:28:24Z")

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> [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](#):
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> Also the “108” timer, do we assume those are hours or minutes? And I guess this also answers my earlier question about what Desmund was typing.

I read this whole thread and didn’t see any mention of this, but can’t believe I am the first to notice:  
**4+8+15+16+23+42 = 108**

Or is it just me???

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### Author: ![Big\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@Big\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_G)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/113 "2005-09-29T12:29:45Z")

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> [@Cat Jones](#):
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> Did they give the answer ?

Like I said, I got this from a local morning show. I don’t recal either of those incidences from last season. However, the radio guys were certain the answer is “Do you smell carrots?”, so I assume that was the answer given. Can anyone confirm that?

By the way, I like the theory I heard that Desmond is waiting for a replacement, (thus the "Are you the one? question) and that Hurley is his replacement becuase he knows the number sequence and he knows this joke, which seems to be a pass code.

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/114 "2005-09-29T12:30:31Z")

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We did that last week.

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### Author: ![Big\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@Big\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_G)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/115 "2005-09-29T12:31:04Z")

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Wow, excuse all the poor spelling.

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/116 "2005-09-29T12:32:26Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> We did that last week.

Was in reply to **WordMan**.  
Also worth remembering from last week: The word QUARANTINE was on the INSIDE of the hatch.

All the shows go together!

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### Author: ![Cat\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Cat\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Jones)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/117 "2005-09-29T12:36:05Z")

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Thanks **Big G** I have a vague memory of the card Micheal made, don’t recall Hurley telling the joke tho’, maybe Walt told him ? Anyway the idea of Hurley being the replacement … like you say he does seem to know a couple of the key requirements. The guy he met in the ‘loony bin’ kept repreating the numbers over and over … just like Desmond has to do.

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> The word QUARANTINE was on the INSIDE of the hatch.

I was slightly disappointed that the writers had Locke point that out - it was like a big arrow “just in case any viewers missed it”.

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### Author: ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/118 "2005-09-29T12:36:56Z")

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> [@Mr2001](#):
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> Well, Yang Tae Young got the bronze medal for all-around men’s gymnastics last year…

True dat. 😃

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### Author: ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/119 "2005-09-29T12:39:00Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> Another question for the TiVo crowd: when Michael is in the park to give Walt the stuffed polar bear (!) a man walks toward the camera on his wife’s left – the audience’s right – and his haircut and gait made me think of Desmond. Can anyone confirm or refute this? I’m off to get Jack’s bar-pal’s seat number…

[Here’s the guy](http://hansprestige.com/pics/lost202.jpg) from two separate frames… I think you might be right, but it’s still hard to tell. He looks a little more Desmondy in the inset frame.

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### Author: ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-2-adrift/323766/120 "2005-09-29T12:49:28Z")

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> [@Big G](#):
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> About the snowman joke: Apparently, Michael used this joke in a card he wrote to Walt in one of the flashbacks last season. Also, Hurley told this joke on the beach

Wasn’t the joke Michael used about a penguin with a sunburn? The nurse he was talking with gave it to him, and he drew a picture for Walt.

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