# Lost 2.20: "Two for the Road"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 3, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270 "2006-05-03T18:34:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/81 "2006-05-04T04:53:26Z")

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For everyone who missed tonight’s show, check this out on Thursday:

[http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing](http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing)

Go ABC!

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### Author: ![Stainz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stainz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stainz)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/82 "2006-05-04T05:14:41Z")

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Here in BC we didn’t see the Hanso Org commercial … anyone have a linky? Or can you at least describe it? Or was it just the phone number …? Thanks!

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### Author: ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/83 "2006-05-04T05:14:56Z")

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> [@Team of Scientists](#):
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> They can’t kill off Libby, because we won’t ever know how/why she was in the psych ward. Of course, I was saying the same kinda thing about Shannon earlier in the season…

Well according to some sources, apparently Libby…

Shows up pretty prominently in someone else’s flashback in the season finale.

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### Author: ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/84 "2006-05-04T05:20:03Z")

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> [@Stainz](#):
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> Here in BC we didn’t see the Hanso Org commercial … anyone have a linky? Or can you at least describe it? Or was it just the phone number …? Thanks!

Go to [www.thehansofoundation.org](http://www.thehansofoundation.org) and click the TV Ad link. It plays almost the entire ad. The only additional bit on the actual TV ad was the web site address and the phone number (and a tiny blurb saying “paid for by abc”).

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### Author: ![jaderabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/85 "2006-05-04T05:21:43Z")

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> [@running piglet cheese](#):
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> Wasn’t the girl Jack’s dad was arguing with Claire? She sure looked and sounded like her.

No, it was an older woman (not old, but older than Claire) with yellower hair. But Jack’s dad was yelling about “my daughter.” Remember that implied thing about Claire having issues with her dad? I’m thinkin’ Jack and Claire are half-brother and -sister.

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### Author: ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/86 "2006-05-04T05:25:22Z")

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I did a Google search for “Hanso Foundation.” The first result was an archive of the old Hanso Foundation website at [http://www.bigspaceship.com/archive/hanso/](http://www.bigspaceship.com/archive/hanso/).

Aha, I thought. Everything we’ve seen–the foundation, the research and the island–is all about developing the technologies needed for interplanentary spaceships. So I was a little disappointed when I looked at the Big Spaceship homepage and found that it’s an interactive media company that develops websites used to market movies and television shows. (Their new project is a website to promote The Da Vinci Code movie.) So my brilliant theory is shot to hell.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/87 "2006-05-04T06:07:19Z")

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> [@jaderabbit](#):
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> No, it was an older woman (not old, but older than Claire) with yellower hair. But Jack’s dad was yelling about “my daughter.” Remember that implied thing about Claire having issues with her dad? I’m thinkin’ Jack and Claire are half-brother and -sister.

Exactly what I’ve been thinking. I thought they would end this episode with the older woman talking on the phone saying “You’re father was here today”, then the picture would switch over to Claire on the other end of the phone.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/88 "2006-05-04T06:10:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Either he is trying to initiate the war or he’s one of the “others” and has sucessfuly integrated himself into the group.

No, he’s going to let Henry go, and he wants to make it look like he got shot in the process. He made a deal with the others that if he helped get Henry out, they’d give him WAAAAAALT back. Of course The Others have no intention of honoring the deal.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/89 "2006-05-04T06:23:41Z")

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Hmmm. Another singer highlighted who was in a plane crash. Patsy Cline… Walkin’ After Midnight. Anyone else notice that?

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/90 "2006-05-04T07:03:27Z")

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> [@Mama Tiger](#):
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> I now leave it to the true theorists to figure out the significance of the combination to the locker: 18R-1L-31R.

18-1+31=48, which IIRC was the original number of lostaways? It’s a stretch…

What caught my ear was the phrase “one left.” 1 is kind of an unusual number for a combination and for whatever reason the words jumped out at me. Michael was one who left…

Another stretch but then I’m not as up on all the theories as some folks.

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### Author: ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/91 "2006-05-04T07:30:10Z")

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Well, here’s something you can do at [www.thehansofoundation.org](http://www.thehansofoundation.org). Try to sign up for the newsletter. Follow the instructions, and then, when you’re prompted for a password, type in “breakingstrain”. After that, go to Joop’s corner, and send him the word “Persephone.”

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### Author: ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/92 "2006-05-04T08:03:48Z")

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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???

AUGHRHGJKGCHZDJCGJZXDFHUCGKZWEKIHULERGDHK

My whole family was out tonight and TIVO CUT OFF AGAIN.  
right after Ana Lucia told Michael the combination… I guess I thought he was going to go in and scream “where’s my boy?” a few times and then like cock the gun and LOST and that’s it.

WHAT HAPPENED???

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### Author: ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/93 "2006-05-04T08:16:26Z")

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Michael said he would take care of Henry, but he turned the gun on Ana Lucia and shot her through the stomach. Then Libby walked in and Michael had to shoot her. Then he opened the vault and told Henry he was ready and appeared to shoot himself in the arm and the screen went dark.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/94 "2006-05-04T08:17:28Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> right after Ana Lucia told Michael the combination… I guess I thought he was going to go in and scream “where’s my boy?” a few times and then like cock the gun and LOST and that’s it.
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> WHAT HAPPENED???

Oh, nothing much. They sat around, chatted about the weather, then started dinner.

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### Author: ![NardoPolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NardoPolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NardoPolo)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/95 "2006-05-04T11:25:04Z")

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Henry’s quote of “If I was one of these others, instead of leading them to my baloon I would lead them out into a trap” echos in my mind.

Except now it seems that Michael is the one leading them into a trap.

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### Author: ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/96 "2006-05-04T11:36:48Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> My thought on Michaels others is that they are another group of survivors. We know the seabillies aren’t all dirty. We’ve seen them without their union suits…

That’s what I thought - Kate gave him a funny look because she knows the dirty and scruffy look is fake. She found Bluebeard’s fake stuff in the Medical Hatch with Libby and Claire.  
I think he’s going to make them think Henry shot them all and escaped, and will rally them to go find what’s-his-name.

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### Author: ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/97 "2006-05-04T12:55:26Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Well according to some sources, apparently Libby…
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> Shows up pretty prominently in someone else’s flashback in the season finale.

Yes, Desmond’s flashback. That should be good

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### Author: ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/98 "2006-05-04T13:08:04Z")

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> [@Team of Scientists](#):
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> Well, here’s something you can do at [www.thehansofoundation.org](http://www.thehansofoundation.org). Try to sign up for the newsletter. Follow the instructions, and then, when you’re prompted for a password, type in “breakingstrain”. After that, go to Joop’s corner, and send him the word “Persephone.”

So where did you come up with the password? When I call the number this morning, I get nothering but a busy signal, whereas last night I was getting “all circuits are busy.”

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/99 "2006-05-04T13:13:51Z")

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I’m going to guess that Libby survived.

Partly, because of denial. Partly because she got shot THROUGH the blankets. It’s possible she had something sufficiently dense to stop or slow the bullets.

Of course, that would ruin Michael’s master plan to retrieve WAAAAAAAAAAALT!

But I hope she survives, because I love me some Watros.

-Joe

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-20-two-for-the-road/355270/100 "2006-05-04T13:22:57Z")

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Has no one mentioned the funniest line in the history of Lost?

“There’s Jin.”

That cracked me up. They couldn’t have picked a funnier landmark!  
FYI- I think there is a chance that Jack’s Dad “Christian Sheppherd” is still alive. Quite possibly the leader of the Others.

The mother of his daughter did resemble Claire (I did a double take). I could see her being his daughter.

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