# Lost 2.23: "Live Together, Die Alone" \[Season Finale\] Open Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2006, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024 "2006-05-24T13:20:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/121 "2006-05-25T03:32:07Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > … on the behalf of Ms. Noone (five pointst to whoever gets the reference) are the two big WTFs. Michael Connelly? ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/122 "2006-05-25T03:33:20Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > 3)THE FUCKING STATUE FOOT. Someone with Tivo… the Others were barefoot. Did anyone have missing toes? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/123 "2006-05-25T03:36:46Z")
You know, I think the biggest question right now is why the Others felt Walt was such a windfall for them. What about him was so valuable? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/124 "2006-05-25T03:38:28Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m let down. I was really waiting for something huge.\*\* I never came.\*\* Man, I was hoping for an almost orgasmic revelation as well, but not **THAT** orgasmic. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/125 "2006-05-25T03:42:55Z")
And if Walt was so valuable, why did they let him go? If Henry Gale is the big wig, how did he end up getting caught in one of Rousseau’s traps? If it was intentional, how in the hell was it worth the high risk of death? (After all, _she_ probably would have killed him before telling anybody else, for all he knew.) What I’m most curious about is what happened to Lock and Ecko. The implication was that the hatch was destroyed, and neither of them seemed to be on their way out. ---
**Author:** ![lachesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@lachesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lachesis)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/126 "2006-05-25T03:43:23Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Well…yes, but how on Earth would she know to look for large EMP disturbances? Methinks her father is (was?) a bigwig in the Hanso Foundation. > > And Charlie managed to get away, but what about Locke, Eko, and Desmond? think you all are off on the wrong trail there. the Ruskies aren’t looking for EMP disturbances… they’re looking for the emergency beacon/GSP signal. that’s coming from Desmond’s boat. that’s been overpowered up until now by the island’s electromagnetic field. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/127 "2006-05-25T03:49:39Z")
The “Russkies” were speaking Spanish, according to my Spanish-speaking wife. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/128 "2006-05-25T03:52:34Z")
I’m not fluent, but they were definitely speaking Spanish, or at least something romantic that’s not French. I heard "que"s and "por favor"s. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/129 "2006-05-25T03:52:45Z")
> [@lachesis](#): > > think you all are off on the wrong trail there. the Ruskies aren’t looking for EMP disturbances… > they’re looking for the emergency beacon/GSP signal. > > that’s coming from Desmond’s boat. > > that’s been overpowered up until now by the island’s electromagnetic field. I’m sure you’re on to something there. So she’s been searching for him for 3 or 4 years. I’m also betting that Locke, Eko & Des are all okay, or maybe trapped or incapacitated for the time being… but what gave Desmond the idea that turning the key to the fail safe would be the death of him? He sure made it seem like Locke and the others had to get the hell away before he did it. We also know that he likes to say “See you in anotha life… BROTHA!” as well, so maybe it was just an unfortunate turn of phrase? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/130 "2006-05-25T03:52:48Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > So Henry must have lied about not pushing the button, since we never heard the system failure. > > And Desmond may have made the plane crash? Hmmm…interesting. Well, he seemed oddly ‘not surprised’ or at all worried when the system malfunction occured… could be that he wanted the malfunction to happen. The Dharma guy clearly said they were hostiles… could be they are people trying to expose whatever the island is… could be they are just stuck there and trying to get out as well… except that Gale knew the path to leave. You can leave, but you’ll never get back? How the f\*ck does he know that… perhaps it “has the virtue of never having been tried”. (5 points for that reference). Clearly the Dharma group knows how to get there. (or atleast ‘did’, and the plane drop of food indicates you can ‘get there’). I get a little tired of what seems to be endless ties between all the charectors… Desmond gets teh boat from Libby? it’s starting to seem forced. I suppose that Desmonds malfunction also brought the drug runners plane down. And no, that was not Jack’s wife… atleast not the one we have seen as she was laying in the hospital bed after the back surgery while Desmond and Lady were talking. “We;re the good ones”… who the frack are the bad ones then? I was so hoping that walt wouldnt be on the boat and that it would blow up. but I want to see Hurley go all grape ape on him. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/131 "2006-05-25T03:52:58Z")
> [@lachesis](#): > > think you all are off on the wrong trail there. the Ruskies aren’t looking for EMP disturbances… > they’re looking for the emergency beacon/GSP signal. > > that’s coming from Desmond’s boat. > > that’s been overpowered up until now by the island’s electromagnetic field. Except the computer monitor specifically mentioned an EM disturbance, indicating that it was the object of their monitoring. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/132 "2006-05-25T03:54:38Z")
> [@lachesis](#): > > think you all are off on the wrong trail there. the Ruskies aren’t looking for EMP disturbances… > they’re looking for the emergency beacon/GSP signal. > > that’s coming from Desmond’s boat. > > that’s been overpowered up until now by the island’s electromagnetic field. Not a bad guess, but why would they be doing that from what looks like a tent in Antarctica? Plus, why the hell would there be a couple Russian guys dedicated to it. I’m thinking they were specifically contracted to look for this island and that the future Mrs. Desmond has some affiliation with the Hanso Foundation. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/133 "2006-05-25T03:58:42Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m sure you’re on to something there. So she’s been searching for him for 3 or 4 years. > > I’m also betting that Locke, Eko & Des are all okay, or maybe trapped or incapacitated for the time being… but what gave Desmond the idea that turning the key to the fail safe would be the death of him? He sure made it seem like Locke and the others had to get the hell away before he did it. We also know that he likes to say “See you in anotha life… BROTHA!” as well, so maybe it was just an unfortunate turn of phrase? Becuase the other guy indicated that turning the key “erased it all”… or words to that affect… since he never turned it, he didn’t know either. I’ll bet some of the missing orientation film bits said what the key did… and obviously Inman/Kelvin lied about what happened to the first guy, as his film bits and bible were found in another hatch. ---
**Author:** ![Wisp00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@Wisp00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisp00)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/134 "2006-05-25T04:02:25Z")
Closed captioning says they were speaking Portuguese ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/135 "2006-05-25T04:03:17Z")
> [@simster](#): > > You can leave, but you’ll never get back? How the f\*ck does he know that… perhaps it “has the virtue of never having been tried”. (5 points for that reference). Like James Kirk, perhaps Henry Gale doesn’t believe in a no-win scenario… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/136 "2006-05-25T04:03:20Z")
Bah! Can somebody tell me what happened after the last commercial break? The last thing we saw was Charlie and Claire kissing by the fire, then they went to commercial and that’s all we saw due to user error. Something about Russians looking for the boat? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/137 "2006-05-25T04:05:30Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Not a bad guess, but why would they be doing that from what looks like a tent in Antarctica? Plus, why the hell would there be a couple Russian guys dedicated to it. I’m thinking they were specifically contracted to look for this island and that the future Mrs. Desmond has some affiliation with the Hanso Foundation. I’m guessing they’re in Chile somewhere, which might explain the spanish. And maybe they’re looking for any EM anomaly… Maybe she’s NOT looking for Desmond after all, but is really looking for the island, and serendipitously and unknowingly has found Desmond as well? Okay. I’m ready for Season 3 now. ---
**Author:** ![Wisp00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@Wisp00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisp00)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/138 "2006-05-25T04:07:50Z")
Anybody get anything out of the [website](http://www.hansocareers.com)? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/139 "2006-05-25T04:10:28Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Like James Kirk, perhaps Henry Gale doesn’t believe in a no-win scenario… 😃 We have a winner… points are on the way. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024/140 "2006-05-25T04:11:34Z")
The last season finale created more questions than it provided answers, so why should this season be any different? I had lots of WTF?! moments, which is all I need to keep me tuning in. I LOVED that we appear to have a reason that flight 815 came down. That’s pretty huge!! Also we (kind of) know what happens when the clock goes down to zero. Though it doesn’t appear there’s a clock left any more. That might be interesting. If Desmond knew there was no “disease” to innoculate himself against, why did he keep shooting up, and take a bunch of vaccine with him when he fled the hatch? WHY didn’t Eko take one second to explain to Locke why he thought the button was meaningful? It’s his own damn fault he got blowed up (if he did). :wally Who else was hoping that as soon as Michael and Walt pulled away from the dock, the damn boat would blow up? How did Charlie survive? And why did the rest of the Losties just go “Huge light, flying steel door, missing Eko, Locke and Desmond. Huh. Well, let’s hang out by the fire.” Like, they could try _looking_ for their lost-mates. Oh, sorry. That would make sense. Very curious what the Others are planning to do with the “big three.” Breeding experiments, perhaps? 😃 Can’t wait for season 3! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-23-live-together-die-alone-season-finale-open-spoilers/358024.md?page=8)