# Lost 2.3: "Orientation" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2005, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852 "2005-10-05T06:24:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/321 "2005-10-12T17:54:10Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I found [this](http://www.lost-theseries.com/screencaps.php?view=cap&ep=39&id=NONAME_007_000_087.jpg) one. His right hand has oddly long middle and ring fingers. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/322 "2005-10-12T17:55:16Z")
šŸ˜® Heā€™s an _Invader!!_ No, wait. Thatā€™s pinkie fingers. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/323 "2005-10-12T17:57:53Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > šŸ˜® > > Heā€™s an _Invader!!_ > > No, wait. Thatā€™s pinkie fingers. > > Never mind. Thereā€™s an _Even Cowgirls Get the Blues_ joke to be made hereā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/324 "2005-10-12T18:00:43Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > His right hand has oddly long middle and ring fingers. And check out his [IMDb page](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2041612/) ā€¦ /cue twilighty music from that show about that zone ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/325 "2005-10-12T18:10:28Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > And check out his [IMDb page](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2041612/) ā€¦ > > /cue twilighty music from that show about that zone Marvin Candle as Marvin Candle. Theyā€™re messing with us. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/326 "2005-10-12T18:12:46Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > And check out his [IMDb page](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2041612/) ā€¦ Hereā€™s the only preexisting photo of a [Marvin Candle](http://baerana.com/100_1168.jpg) on the internet. Right next to aā€¦ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/327 "2005-10-12T18:50:59Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > If you convert every number (from 1 on) to binary, and then count the number of ā€œ1ā€™sā€, and create a set of numbers that yield a prime number of ā€œ1ā€™sā€, you get this sequence:(Every one of Hurleyā€™s numbers, in sequence, _except_ for 42, which is the odd one out, with a non-prime number of 1ā€™s in binary notation. **Larry** , maybe Iā€™m just not understanding your logic, but 15 in binary doesnā€™t give you a prime number of ones. It gives you four of them: 1111. And 42 does give you a prime number, because itā€™s 101010 in binary, as far as Google Calculator is telling me. But then, math was never my strongest subject. Can you explain what youā€™re going for here? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/328 "2005-10-12T19:01:08Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > **Larry** , maybe Iā€™m just not understanding your logic, but 15 in binary doesnā€™t give you a prime number of ones. It gives you four of them: 1111. And 42 does give you a prime number, because itā€™s 101010 in binary, as far as Google Calculator is telling me. > > But then, math was never my strongest subject. Can you explain what youā€™re going for here? He meant non-primes. Thereā€™s a post somewhere in this thread with the correction. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/329 "2005-10-12T19:02:24Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > **Larry** , maybe Iā€™m just not understanding your logic, but 15 in binary doesnā€™t give you a prime number of ones. As mentioned upthread, there was a brain fart involved and I set it down backwards. Reverse prime and non-prime. Non-prime number of 1s in binary conversion from 1 to x gives you the sequence: ```auto 1, 2, **4, 8, 15, 16, 23,** 27, 29, 30... ``` 42 is the odd one out with a prime number of 1s. Again, sorry for be ass-backwards with that. I got confuzzled. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/330 "2005-10-12T19:23:59Z")
Thanks, I must have missed the correction somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/331 "2005-10-12T21:54:00Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > Anybody store the orientation film somewhere? I canā€™t get it to load from [www.thehansofoundation.org](http://www.thehansofoundation.org) site. Probably excessive trafficā€¦ I spent a week trying to get on that site with no luck. Then stumbled accidently on this alternative: website: [http://thedharmainitiative.org/](http://thedharmainitiative.org/) actual film link: [http://thedharmainitiative.org/orientation/](http://thedharmainitiative.org/orientation/) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/332 "2005-10-12T23:27:09Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Itā€™s there in a pre-DVD recorded copy of it, too. (I looked back at that episode to see for myself). Cool. Good news. thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852.md?page=16)