# Lost 2.3: "Orientation"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 5, 2005, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852 "2005-10-05T06:24:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/61 "2005-10-06T02:43:07Z")

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How could a computer short out an entire science installation?? Is this just an elaborate Pavlov experiment? Never mind…sorry to digress…

-XT

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/62 "2005-10-06T03:01:28Z")

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Oh sure, make the freaky-secret-bunker-laboratory-building wierdos from University of Michigan. We already got the Uni-bomber, give us a break will ya?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/63 "2005-10-06T03:06:35Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> How could a computer short out an entire science installation?? Is this just an elaborate Pavlov experiment? Never mind…sorry to digress…

The computer had, after all, been shot. It’s not unreasonable to think a short circuit, possibly a connection between the power supply and the case, could trip a breaker.

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**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/64 "2005-10-06T03:13:41Z")

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I just can’t stand it. I completely forgot about the show and missed the first 35 minutes. Is there a website or something that recaps the episode? I absolutely have to know what went on in that lost 35 minutes.

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**Author:** ![remisser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@remisser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/remisser)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/65 "2005-10-06T03:15:14Z")

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Y’know, a lot of us didn’t get to see the show yet because of the playoffs - so you’re all posting spoilers. 😛 Spoiler box people!$ come on!!!

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/66 "2005-10-06T03:19:23Z")

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> [@Farmwoman](#):
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> I think the folks with Analucia are the tail section and, without the benefit of a doctor and 40 odd other people to help them stay focused, they’ve gone a bit native and wiiiiiild. After a few bouts with the Others (and we all know how tricksy they can be) they’re not likely to trust that these guys are other survivors. Shame Jack wasn’t on the raft.

Or maybe the sickness has already gotten to them…?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/67 "2005-10-06T03:20:58Z")

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> [@remisser](#):
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> Y’know, a lot of us didn’t get to see the show yet because of the playoffs - so you’re all posting spoilers. 😛 Spoiler box people!$ come on!!!

It has been over for 1:20 in the Central zone. Stay away from the thread or kwitcherbitchin.

Sorry if this sounds snarky.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/68 "2005-10-06T03:21:31Z")

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I won’t read a single word in this thread…Be back after Invasion.

Maybe I’ll peek anyway.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/69 "2005-10-06T03:22:37Z")

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> [@remisser](#):
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> Y’know, a lot of us didn’t get to see the show yet because of the playoffs - so you’re all posting spoilers. 😛 Spoiler box people!$ come on!!!

Page one, first line of the thread tells you that the current episode information is unboxed. Stop readin’ ya big silly!

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**Author:** ![remisser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@remisser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/remisser)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/70 "2005-10-06T03:24:06Z")

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I thought this was interesting - a UK promo for season one of lost which someone put the beatles song ‘yesterday’ over (I don’t know what song was on the original.) Anyhow, if you watch the video and take it in a literal sense… Locke and Walt are conducting the carnage and perhaps even the actions (dancing) of everyone.  
the promo: [http://media.putfile.com/Yesterday-A-UK-Promo-Video](http://media.putfile.com/Yesterday-A-UK-Promo-Video)

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/71 "2005-10-06T03:24:06Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The computer had, after all, been shot. It’s not unreasonable to think a short circuit, possibly a connection between the power supply and the case, could trip a breaker.

Still don’t know how to do a spoiler box so…don’t read beyond this point.

I would buy that the computer might have shorted out…even that it might have thrown a circuit. But the entire base went down. That doesn’t seem very reasonable from a PC…right? 🙂

Anyway, it was just a nit pick. Good show tonight. I’m starting to think that the island is some testing station for behavior in humans. I think the food is drugged with something…maybe something that makes folks psychotic. The drug…an antidote. The whole 108 min. button push? Think Pavlov. The Others? They are the one’s who were the original test subjects that got out of control…or maybe they were as they were meant to be but the control group got wacked or something.

As for the rest of the mystic stuff…gods know. I’ll just have to wait and see. 🙂

-XT

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/72 "2005-10-06T03:25:22Z")

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> [@Silver Fire](#):
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> Locke’s dad is a rotten, evil bastard.

I think there’s more to it than him just being an evil rotten bastard. They are really making a big deal of his rejection, then using, then rejecting his son again.

This show will drive me crazy.

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**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/73 "2005-10-06T03:26:13Z")

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Xtisme, don’t worry about boxes.

> [@remisser](#):
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> Y’know, a lot of us didn’t get to see the show yet because of the playoffs - so you’re all posting spoilers. 😛 Spoiler box people!$ come on!!!

> [@John Mace](#):
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> First, the thread rules:  
> Information about all episodes aired to this point – including the current week – will be unboxed.

See you after the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/74 "2005-10-06T03:31:11Z")

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> [@bradministrator](#):
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> All I know is that I speed-read through Flann O’Brien’s “The Third Policeman” the past few days after it was revealed it would be a major focus of this episode, and then you see it for one second in Desmond’s backpack… ☹ I got punk’d.

No, wait, if that’s the book I’m thinking of, it IS significant to this episode :eek: !

:off to study this with waaay too much intensity:

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/75 "2005-10-06T04:00:09Z")

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> [@remisser](#):
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> I thought this was interesting - a UK promo for season one of lost which someone put the beatles song ‘yesterday’ over (I don’t know what song was on the original.) Anyhow, if you watch the video and take it in a literal sense… Locke and Walt are conducting the carnage and perhaps even the actions (dancing) of everyone.  
> the promo: [http://media.putfile.com/Yesterday-A-UK-Promo-Video](http://media.putfile.com/Yesterday-A-UK-Promo-Video)

Nuts. Where was the link to the original promo?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/76 "2005-10-06T04:27:47Z")

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Ethan gets shot before he can give us any real answers, and Desmond runs off into the jungle, and we get strung along.

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**Author:** ![remisser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@remisser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/remisser)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/77 "2005-10-06T05:01:30Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Ethan gets shot before he can give us any real answers, and Desmond runs off into the jungle, and we get strung along.

I think a lot of questions were answered in the video. It’s an experiment. Plain and simple. They mentioned animal testing, psychoanalysis, the whole nine yards. So it’s obviously a testing site. 😉 And since the video said part 3 of (some number I can’t remember) it’s just a matter of finding the other videos.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/78 "2005-10-06T05:20:43Z")

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Does anyone have a breakdown of actual show minutes versus commercial minutes for tonights episode? I would swear that there were more commercials than show.

Well, at least they have an excuse for why Hurley doesn’t lose any weight from now on.

And, those tailaways better think twice about starting any turf wars. They might have a single ( and for all we know, empty) 9mm, but our favorite Lostaways now have an entire armoury.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/79 "2005-10-06T05:23:54Z")

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It never ceases to amaze me just how fast this show goes by.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-3-orientation/324852/80 "2005-10-06T05:56:31Z")

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> [@Grendel's Father](#):
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> Somebody in a previous Lost post brought up a connection with the story of Apollo. So the fact that Station 3 is known as the “Swan” jumped right out and slapped me in the face…
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> [http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/apollo.html](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/apollo.html)

Apollo’s daddy took the form of a swan when he knocked up Leda with Apollo’s half-sister Helen, too… Hmmm…

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