# Lost 2.4: "Everybody Hates Hugo" (OPEN SPOILERS)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 12, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863 "2005-10-12T06:20:04Z")
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### Author: ![MikeTheTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@MikeTheTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeTheTiger)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/161 "2005-10-13T19:01:35Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> The incredibly hot Marguerite Moreau. For an eyeful, check out [this video](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379270/) (for Sayid fans, you get an eyeful of Naveen Andrews, too).

Ah, the non-goalie female member of the Mighty Ducks. She grew up good!

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### Author: ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/162 "2005-10-13T19:05:41Z")

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Stand back people … I Have a Theory.

There is a good reason Hurley doesn’t want to be in conflict with other people. Bad things only happen to people who have been mean to him!

Originally we saw the mom’s death as purely sad, and the meteor striking the chicken joint as a coincidence. However, as was revealed in today’s episode, the mom was always tormenting him, and he loathed the chicken job. Perhaps he had grudges against the other people who had bad luck. Without having actively wished for their death, he feels responsible after the fact. Now he fears all negative interactions will have deadly consequences.

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### Author: ![flex727](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@flex727](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flex727)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/163 "2005-10-13T19:07:40Z")

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> [@Alliex](#):
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> I’m still trying to figure out how to box quotes and stuff so I apologize for my posts being set up incorrectly.

Well, the easiest thing is to simply click on the “Reply” button in the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote.

To do it manually, type {QUOTE=Alliex}stuff you are quoting{/QUOTE}, but replace the curly brackets with square brackets.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/164 "2005-10-13T19:08:25Z")

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Here’s a massive monkey wrench to throw into the works.

A friend of mind just told me about an article that was recently in TV Guide about Lost. Among other things, it says that they never tell us when the “flashbacks” occur because at least some of them could actually be taking place in the future, after they get off the island. :eek: They mention Sawyer’s reading A Wrinkle In Time in connection with this.

Time to reevaluate every episode, I guess.

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/165 "2005-10-13T19:13:09Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I don’t know if someone already answered this but one thing puzzled me last night. Hurley said that there was 3 months of food for one guy left in the bunker…but it seemed to me the shelves were pretty full. I didn’t see a vast and mostly empty store room somewhere indicating that there had been a lot more food in the past. So…if its true that there was only 3 months of food for 1 guy in the bunker how did Desmond (and partner before) survive there for years? Are the bunkers being resupplied with food or something?
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> Appologies if this has already been addressed…I haven’t read through the entire thread.
> 
> -XT

I think Hurley just mis-estimated. Looks like enough for a year or two to me.

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### Author: ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/166 "2005-10-13T19:16:10Z")

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> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> I think Hurley just mis-estimated. Looks like enough for a year or two to me.

This is Hurley we’re talking about. A year or two to you and me would probably only be 3 month’s worth for him. 😃

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/167 "2005-10-13T19:17:11Z")

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Well, then, if 42 people eat it all in one big party, there’s going to be some seriously sick people on that island…

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### Author: ![Alliex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@Alliex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alliex)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/168 "2005-10-13T19:18:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Well, the easiest thing is to simply click on the “Reply” button in the bottom right corner of the post you want to quote.
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> To do it manually, type {QUOTE=Alliex}stuff you are quoting{/QUOTE}, but replace the curly brackets with square brackets.

Thanks! 🙂

I hope this works! 🙂

Allie X

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/169 "2005-10-13T19:19:01Z")

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The _Driveshaft_ CD was in a bin labeled “One Hit Wonders”.

😃😃😃

Jin still has that frackin’ handcuff on. Didn’t anybody salvage a paper clip?

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### Author: ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/170 "2005-10-13T19:21:37Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Here’s a massive monkey wrench to throw into the works.
> 
> A friend of mind just told me about an article that was recently in TV Guide about Lost. Among other things, it says that they never tell us when the “flashbacks” occur because at least some of them could actually be taking place in the future, after they get off the island. :eek: They mention Sawyer’s reading A Wrinkle In Time in connection with this.
> 
> Time to reevaluate every episode, I guess.

Nothing surprises me when it comes to this show, but which, if any, “flashbacks” did not clearly happen in the past?

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/171 "2005-10-13T19:24:13Z")

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> [@Hello Again](#):
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> Originally we saw the mom’s death as purely sad, and the meteor striking the chicken joint as a coincidence. However, as was revealed in today’s episode, the mom was always tormenting him, and he loathed the chicken job. Perhaps he had grudges against the other people who had bad luck. Without having actively wished for their death, he feels responsible after the fact. Now he fears all negative interactions will have deadly consequences.

Wow…if your theory is right I’ll bet the guy falling past the window when Hurley was visiting his finance guy…was his and Locke’s boss!

-Joe, _kasplat_

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/172 "2005-10-13T19:29:14Z")

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> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#):
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> Nothing surprises me when it comes to this show, but which, if any, “flashbacks” did not clearly happen in the past?

Maybe not the flashbacks, but what about visions? Seeing Watery Walt, Hurley talking to Jin…

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/173 "2005-10-13T19:30:32Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> Hey, could you please provide a link to this? as I stated on the first post on page 3, I can’t find anything but Season One on IMDB. Thanks!

Try hitting “guest apperances” on the left-hand frame.

That’ll take you to the right page.

-Joe

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### Author: ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/174 "2005-10-13T19:36:16Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Maybe not the flashbacks, but what about visions? Seeing Watery Walt, Hurley talking to Jin…

Ok, I can could buy that to some degree. My personal take on the “visions” were that they were some sort of symbolic message from the subconscious or perhaps from somewhere/thing/one else. (There _were_ parapsychology experiments being conducted on the island)

The vision of Watery Walt saying “push the button, don’t push button bad” preceded the actual discovery of the button, I believe. Aw hell, I don’t know. The mind boggles.

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### Author: ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/175 "2005-10-13T19:50:27Z")

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> [@Hello Again](#):
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> Stand back people … I Have a Theory.
> 
> There is a good reason Hurley doesn’t want to be in conflict with other people. Bad things only happen to people who have been mean to him!

“Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.”

That’s it! Mechanisms on the island are bombarding them with gamma radiation. Hurley = Hulk. Hurley smash!

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### Author: ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/176 "2005-10-13T20:02:57Z")

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> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#):
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> I think Hurley just mis-estimated. Looks like enough for a year or two to me.

I’m not sure one way or the other. The point though is that the shelves all looked full to me. If someone or someones had been cut off in that facility for years (how many years?) then the shelves would be depleted…even if there were years of food left. Maybe as another poster said there are other rooms we haven’t seen yet, but usually you don’t have multiple store rooms of food scattered around a facility like that one…you have one large central store room for food, maybe another for weapons, etc. I’m probably reading too much into this, but when I saw the scene and when Hurley told Jack (IIRC) that there was enough food for one person for 3 months…well, it struck a serious discordant note with me. For one thing I didn’t see Desmond being very anxious about the food situation. Myself, if I were cut off in a facility like that on some gods forsaken island and I knew there was only 3 months of food left I’d be taking steps to figure out what the hell I was going to be eating 4 months from now.

Again, I’m probably reading more into it than is there.

-XT

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### Author: ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/177 "2005-10-13T20:07:25Z")

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> [@Hello Again](#):
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> Stand back people … I Have a Theory.
> 
> There is a good reason Hurley doesn’t want to be in conflict with other people. Bad things only happen to people who have been mean to him!
> 
> Originally we saw the mom’s death as purely sad, and the meteor striking the chicken joint as a coincidence. However, as was revealed in today’s episode, the mom was always tormenting him, and he loathed the chicken job. Perhaps he had grudges against the other people who had bad luck. Without having actively wished for their death, he feels responsible after the fact. Now he fears all negative interactions will have deadly consequences.

Hurley’s mom died? I thought it was his grandfather who died. I thought we just saw his mother twist her ankle the same time that Hurley’s house caught on fire.

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/178 "2005-10-13T20:14:27Z")

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Am I the only one who is thinking a lot of people from the back of the plane have died from “the disease” that French lady told us about?

Then again, that wouldn’t explain why they were so untrusting of Michael, Jin, and Sawyer. They must have thought they might have been others.

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/179 "2005-10-13T20:16:53Z")

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I’d also point out that next week’s episode is called “…and Found”.

Jin’s first flashback episode was called, “… in translation”.

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### Author: ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-4-everybody-hates-hugo-open-spoilers/325863/180 "2005-10-13T20:22:04Z")

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> [@BobT](#):
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> Hurley’s mom died? I thought it was his grandfather who died. I thought we just saw his mother twist her ankle the same time that Hurley’s house caught on fire.

Hurley’s mom broke her ankle, but she didn’t die.

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