# Lost 2.9: "What Kate Did" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 30, 2005, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336 "2005-11-30T05:29:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/161 "2005-12-02T03:42:07Z")
> [@](#): > > (1) Kate is innocent young girl > (2) She is good friends with a young boy, but he moves away/they drift apart, after burying a little time capsule containing a toy airplane > (3) Her mother remarries > (4) She hates her stepdad (actually her biological dad) > (5) In her first major criminal act, she blows up the house and sets up her mom to receive the insurance payments > (6) Her mom turns her in > (7) Marshall catches her > (8) They run into horse, she escapes We know (3) occurred when Kate was five. Based on that and the fact that her friend mentioned she was having problems at home, I’d assume that Kate’s mother and Wayne were already married before Kate and her friend were seperated. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/162 "2005-12-02T04:12:07Z")
Did anyone else notice that “Gilgamesh” is written in different handwriting than the rest of the puzzle? God only knows if that means anything and He won’t tell anyone but WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLTTTT!! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/163 "2005-12-02T04:28:36Z")
> [@](#): > > I tried to read the fruit salad of ribbons on Sgt. Austen’s uniform. I noticed that he did not have a lot of the medals you’d expect a Korean War vet to have, but I couldn’t see if he had a campaign ribbon from Desert Storm. Wouldn’t it be neat if he had served with Jin or Sun’s parents as well as across the line from Sayid? and > [@](#): > > Urk. Just checked, and he does have the “Kuwait Liberation” campaign ribbon. It’s on his lower left - the viewer’s lower right. ok… that by itself is _really_ wrong. Korean War Vet == 1950-1954 area. (right?) Desert Storm was 1991… Even if the age thing is “ok”… Lets assume he was 18 at the beginning of Korea, he would have “retired” way before Desert Storm… As a reference point, are there any Vietnam vets still serving? And only a Master Seargeant with ATLEAST 30 Years in service… that’s one dumb seargent! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/164 "2005-12-02T04:29:48Z")
> [@KRM](#): > > Did anyone else notice that “Gilgamesh” is written in different handwriting than the rest of the puzzle? God only knows if that means anything and He won’t tell anyone but WAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLTTTT!! I believe that was Locke’s addition to the puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/165 "2005-12-02T04:47:10Z")
There are lots of American soldiers who are in Korea today. The Korean War time frame doesn’t make a difference. A Korean War vet would be in his 60s or 70s now. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/166 "2005-12-02T05:05:12Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > There are lots of American soldiers who are in Korea today. The Korean War time frame doesn’t make a difference. > > A Korean War vet would be in his 60s or 70s now. Fair enough, but I was under the impression that he was there _during_ the war, which does make a big difference, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/167 "2005-12-02T06:05:17Z")
However, I was not under the impression that Kate’s “father” was a soldier in Korea. The writers picked an overseas location where a U.S. soldier was likely to be. They could have just as easily said Germany. Would you have thought that the man was a World War II vet then? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/168 "2005-12-02T06:28:22Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Fair enough, but I was under the impression that he was there _during_ the war, which does make a big difference, IMHO. That’s not possible, given that Kate was born 4 months after he got back from Korea. Assuming the plane crash was 2004ish, there’s no way Kate was born in the mid-1950s, unless, of course, she’s taking part in the Hanso Foundation life extension project. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/169 "2005-12-02T06:45:36Z")
In the real word, Evangeline Lilly is 26. She’s not even old enough to have a father who served in the Vietnam War. And being Canadian, that’s even more unlikely (although not impossible). ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/170 "2005-12-02T12:44:41Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > In the real word, Evangeline Lilly is 26. She’s not even old enough to have a father who served in the Vietnam War. > > And being Canadian, that’s even more unlikely (although not impossible). I agree that Kate’s dad wasn’t in The Korean War, but I’ve got an uncle who got his Purple Heart in Vietnam, and his daughters are both older than 26. I’m bummed out that we didn’t get to see how many A’s Michael types whenever he spells WAAAAAAAAAAAAALT’s name. ```auto :> DIR WAAAAA~1.LT! .. . 1 file found, 4,815,162,342 bytes :> ``` ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/171 "2005-12-02T13:03:46Z")
[QUOTE=BobT] In the real word, Evangeline Lilly is 26. She’s not even old enough to have a father who served in the Vietnam War. [QUOTE] Tony Randal became a father at 80. If the father is 72 now, he’d be 46 when Eva was born (1979) and would be 19 in 1952. So its possible that Evas father was old enough for the Korean War (certainly old enough for the Vietnam war) But that is moot, since being in Korea != being in the active war. (and the war is technically still in effect) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/172 "2005-12-02T13:31:15Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > In the real word, Evangeline Lilly is 26. She’s not even old enough to have a father who served in the Vietnam War. My girlfriend’s father served in Vietnam, and he has a daughter that’s 25 (or 26, but no older than that). For the record. Anyway, I didn’t get the impression that Kate’s father served in the Korean War, either. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/173 "2005-12-02T13:34:33Z")
I had the strangest dream this morning. It was Jack and Alvar Hanso discussing something way too technical for me to understand, but I did catch “transference” mentioned several times. The last thing I remember of the dream is Hurley’s face really up close saying “TRANSFER, DUDE!” Yes I’m sure this means nothing other than I am waaaay too into that show. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/174 "2005-12-02T14:08:18Z")
ok… I rescind my earlier comments… he was in Korea, but not a part of the Korean War. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/175 "2005-12-02T15:04:32Z")
He was just part of the force that guards the North/South Border. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/176 "2005-12-02T15:42:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Tony Randal became a father at 80. If the father is 72 now, he’d be 46 when Eva was born (1979) and would be 19 in 1952. So its possible that Evas father was old enough for the Korean War (certainly old enough for the Vietnam war) Kate specifically said her father was in Korea when she was conceived (that was the whole point of the scene) so if she meant the war rather than the country, Kate would have been born no latter than 1952. Unless the producers are really screwing around there’s no way that’s true. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/177 "2005-12-02T16:00:32Z")
When I was a kid I was friends with a girl whose father was in the Air Force. In 1987-1988, they stationed him in Korea for a year. This was despite the fact that he had seven children at home. That’s what I thought of immediately. Kate’d dad was stationed over there for awhile, and while he was gone her mom took up with Wayne. And has anybody seen [this](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051202/ap_en_tv/tv_lost_arrests;_ylt=AmQhQuBTHl.j1iyk2GIipMWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDRrBHNlYwM3NjI-) in the news this morning? Both Cynthia Watros and Michelle Rodriguez were arrested for DUI in separate incidents 15 minutes apart early this morning. Not such a good night for the tailies. ---
**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/178 "2005-12-02T16:10:24Z")
> [@cbawlmer](#): > > Both Cynthia Watros and Michelle Rodriguez were arrested for DUI in separate incidents 15 minutes apart early this morning. Not such a good night for the tailies. Must have been those tequila shots AL was doing at the end of the episode… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/179 "2005-12-02T16:12:18Z")
This is OT, but it looks like 2 of our stars are in [trouble.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294957/) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336/180 "2005-12-02T16:12:51Z")
Maybe they both just discovered that the producers are going to have them eaten by the TCM in an upcoming episode. (Please oh please oh please!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-2-9-what-kate-did/333336.md?page=10)