# Lost 3.09: "Stranger in a Strange Land"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 21, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090 "2007-02-21T14:42:31Z")\
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Heinlein anyone? Biblical reference? Both?

Well, last week didn’t advance the story, so maybe this week we’ll find out if Kate, Sawyer and Karl make it to the beach camp. We’ve only been waiting for about 4 episodes now to find out what type of search party Locke put together. Maybe he’s already waiting for them on the north end of the island…?

From the ABC “Lost” website:

**Stranger in a Strange Land** A power play ensues between Jack and “The Others” as Juliet’s future hangs in the balance. Meanwhile, Kate, Sawyer and Karl continue on their journey away from “Alcatraz.”

**Some useful Café Society links are given below:**

Thread index for Season 1 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277083) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278382) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279542) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280792) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=281998) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283328) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284665) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=285925) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=287237) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289514) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290718) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=295320) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296591) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297760) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301602) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302710) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304986) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309511) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310613) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315048) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317139) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318051)

Thread index for Season 2 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=335991) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337167) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338307) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339366) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=340432) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343878) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=345144) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=346239) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347177) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353542) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354691) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=355716) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357834) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359015) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=361048) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363982) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=365010) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=366081) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367064) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=370033) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371010) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371991)

Thread index for Season 3 episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390771) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=391722) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=392661) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=393629) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=394542) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=395368) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407398) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=408446)

[The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221)

Official “Lost” Questions Thread[Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542), [Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040), [Season 3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390739)

**Here are some interesting external links:**

[The Lost Report](http://hometown.aol.com/qcotms/myhomepage/index.html): A very well written summary of the most current episode often containing interesting insights. I don’t think you’ll find spoilers.

[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!

[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).

[Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers.

[Lostpedia](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page): The wikipedia of Lost information. Quite a comprehensive site, but beware of spoilers!

[ThEmIsFiTiShErE](http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/): The Misfit offers his whacky commentary on “Lost”. Is he a nut-case or a clever insider? Careful, though, possible spoilers.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/2 "2007-02-21T14:56:25Z")

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Next weeks TV Guide entry bothers me for some reason:

**Tricia Tanaka Is Dead**  
The discovery of an old, wrecked car on the island leads Hurley on a mission of hope; Kate and Sawyer reunite with their fellow castaways; Kate remains unsure about leaving Jack behind.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/3 "2007-02-21T15:33:57Z")

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So basically we are back on “Othertraz” for the duration of this episode? Blech.

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/4 "2007-02-21T15:52:45Z")

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Is it Wednesday already?

I don’t think we’ll get much info about the beach people this week. Probably more about the aftermath of Kate and Sawyer’s assisted escape. How much backlash will Jack get? How about Juliet? Will we see more of Alex?

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/5 "2007-02-21T15:58:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Antigen]  
Will we see more of Alex?  
[/QUOTE]

I’d rather see the Dharma shark sink it’s mechanical teeth into Kate and Sawyer.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/6 "2007-02-21T16:21:17Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
So basically we are back on “Othertraz” for the duration of this episode? Blech.  
[/QUOTE]

I don’t know for sure, but if I had to guess, I’d say we’ll get a little bit of both islands tonight.

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**Author:** ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/7 "2007-02-21T16:47:51Z")

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I imagine we won’t see any of the main group, but instead we’ll get mostly Jack with interspersed scenes of Kate, Sawyer and Karl.

Didn’t last week’s teaser say something about revealing three big secrets this week?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/8 "2007-02-21T16:53:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Team of Scientists]  
I imagine we won’t see any of the main group, but instead we’ll get mostly Jack with interspersed scenes of Kate, Sawyer and Karl.

Didn’t last week’s teaser say something about revealing three big secrets this week?

[/QUOTE]

I don’t remember that, but I suspect we’ll see

That scene with Cindy, the flight attendant. That could be one of the “secrets”.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/9 "2007-02-21T17:18:38Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
So basically we are back on “Othertraz” for the duration of this episode? Blech.  
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I hope there are some scenes where Jack and Kate yell at each other through wallkie talkies.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/10 "2007-02-21T17:28:07Z")

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Answer to previous spoilers:

Three big secrets. We find out about Jack’s tatoos. We find out what happened to the children that the Others took and we find out something else I can’t recall.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/11 "2007-02-21T18:01:11Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
[ThEmIsFiTiShErE](http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/): The Misfit offers his whacky commentary on “Lost”. Is he a nut-case or a clever insider? Careful, though, possible spoilers.  
[/QUOTE]  
Funny\* thing about this website. I clicked it, just to check it out. I _never_ in my _whole entire life_ – and please bear in mind that I was right smack in the middle of my formative years in the '80s, when Valley Girl and Surferspeak were all the rage, not to _mention_ the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – I _ **never** _ in my _ **whole entire life** _ saw so many exclamation points in one place at the same time. It’s truly _bizarre_. So if gratutious excitement and/or EXTRANEOUS CAPITAL LETTERS gives you a headache (as they do me) click that link at your own risk.

I did like this bit, though, buried at the bottom of a paragraph:

> [@ThEmIsFiTiShErE](#):
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> WARNING ALERT the above text COntains SPOILERS!!

_[sic]_ Yes, the spoiler warning boilerplate appeared at the _end of the spoiler info._

Sigh … I _luuuuuuuve_ teh internets.

- Not “funny” = “haha” … more “funny” = “oh, God, no!”

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/12 "2007-02-21T18:19:33Z")

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Herc at AICN usually has a summary up by this point, not sure what that means (could be he hasn’t seen it, or is working on something else)

Brian

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/13 "2007-02-21T21:44:56Z")

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I’ve been asking about Cindy and her abrupt disappearance for some time, so I’m glad to get a bit of pay-off tonight in that respect.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/14 "2007-02-22T00:02:13Z")

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[QUOTE=rockle]  
Funny\* thing about this website. I clicked it, just to check it out. I _never_ in my _whole entire life_ – and please bear in mind that I was right smack in the middle of my formative years in the '80s, when Valley Girl and Surferspeak were all the rage, not to _mention_ the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – I _ **never** _ in my _ **whole entire life** _ saw so many exclamation points in one place at the same time. It’s truly _bizarre_. So if gratutious excitement and/or EXTRANEOUS CAPITAL LETTERS gives you a headache (as they do me) click that link at your own risk.

I did like this bit, though, buried at the bottom of a paragraph:  
_[sic]_ Yes, the spoiler warning boilerplate appeared at the _end of the spoiler info._

Sigh … I _luuuuuuuve_ teh internets.

- Not “funny” = “haha” … more “funny” = “oh, God, no!”  
[/QUOTE]

I’m convinced that this guy is an insider who mixes spoilers with his zany “analysis”. I love reading his over-the-top tone and the nutty stuff he comes up with.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/15 "2007-02-22T00:32:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Dumbguy]  
I hope there are some scenes where Jack and Kate yell at each other through wallkie talkies.  
[/QUOTE]

I wonder if Kate will trip at some point while running through the jungle? I wonder if Sawyer will help her up?

-Joe

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/16 "2007-02-22T01:22:41Z")

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If you’re like me and you kind of forget who Cindy is/was, here’s [a link](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Cindy_Chandler) to her entry in the Lostpedia.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/17 "2007-02-22T03:02:07Z")

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Hahahaha! Great nickname.

Captain Bunnykiller.

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/18 "2007-02-22T03:05:00Z")

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Nice to see Jack is still pissed and accusatory. I was worried he’d morph back into wimpy-Jack after the surgery.

And Juliet’s taking his place in the cell? Hm, is Jack being whisked off for a stay in Karl’s old room?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/19 "2007-02-22T03:05:30Z")

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Ahhh, so Juliet gets Jack’s old cell?

At least finally Jack called them out directly – the “Others” who always keep claiming to be the good ones. It’s taken a while for any of our Losties to reply to one of those with the litany of crimes observed to date. (Kidnapping Claire, hanging Charlie from a tree, etc).

But he forgot to mention the murder of Scott/Steve. 😉

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-09-stranger-in-a-strange-land/393090/20 "2007-02-22T03:05:34Z")

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methinks he’s off to kate and sawyer’s old digs.

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