# Lost 3.16: "One of Us" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652 "2007-04-11T15:52:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/41 "2007-04-12T03:45:53Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] I’m not sure that I buy that Juliet is evil. She may be taking advantage of Ben’s con to get as far away from him as possible. Time will tell, I guess. [/QUOTE] I think it’d be interesting to go this way–that she sets out following Ben’s orders, but can’t go through with the con because she trusts Jack or finds new loyalty with the Losties. So then either she tells the Losties, and Jack is all betrayed and the rest trust her even less, or scrambles to foil the Others’ plan and keep her involvement a secret. It could be a good test of her character. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/42 "2007-04-12T03:48:12Z")
[QUOTE=Annie] Someone else will pay worse. It’s always the innocent who suffer the most. Watch out, Vincent!!! [/QUOTE] Vincent’s not innocent. _looks to the left_ _looks to the right_ _whispers_ He _knows_ things. _nods_ ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/43 "2007-04-12T03:48:24Z")
[QUOTE=Kythereia] So then either she tells the Losties, and Jack is all betrayed and the rest trust her even less, or scrambles to foil the Others’ plan and keep her involvement a secret. It could be a good test of her character. [/QUOTE] Or some dumbass could kill her before she says anything revealing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/44 "2007-04-12T03:53:51Z")
That dude who plays Ben…he’s a really awesome actor. Is anyone else finding themselves…liking him? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/45 "2007-04-12T03:59:55Z")
[QUOTE=ZipperJJ] That dude who plays Ben…he’s a really awesome actor. Is anyone else finding themselves…liking him? [/QUOTE] Um … yeah, I actually thought he was kinda cute in the glasses. [sub]Now I feel dirty[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/46 "2007-04-12T04:01:11Z")
My wife said the following. Apparently it’s quite recent. Ben Linus said he was born on the island. If that’s the truth, then this birth problem is very recent. ---
**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/47 "2007-04-12T04:03:51Z")
[QUOTE=IvoryTowerDenizen] Why isn’t Sun getting sick? Isn’t she supposed to be preggers too? Does Juillette know about her? [/QUOTE] Her and Kate, yeah. If you watched carefully, you could see Kate have a reaction to Juliet telling Jack how pregnant women were dying. Has it occurred to anyone that the Others _allowed_ Sawyer and Kate to get it on for a reason? Kate’s pregnancy will surely come into play later on. Sun didn’t get sick because they didn’t kidnap her. Claire’s symptomatic breakdown was intentionally engineered by them to occur when it did. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/48 "2007-04-12T04:12:05Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] My wife said the following. Apparently it’s quite recent. Ben Linus said he was born on the island. If that’s the truth, then this birth problem is very recent. [/QUOTE] He could have been the last before Alex. And his mother may not have survived. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/49 "2007-04-12T04:20:52Z")
[QUOTE=Menocchio] He could have been the last before Alex. And his mother may not have survived. [/QUOTE] Right. We forgot about Alex. So perhaps they have saved some children, but lost the mothers? ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/50 "2007-04-12T04:32:39Z")
Or Rousseau was far enough along in her pregnancy/not drinking the Other water/ sufficient distance from the Big Fraking magnet so it didn’t make her sick. So, when do they start trying to breed Alex like a zoo panda? ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/51 "2007-04-12T04:32:53Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] Right. We forgot about Alex. So perhaps they have saved some children, but lost the mothers? [/QUOTE] Maybe. It’s clear to me that the Others have lost their way somehow. “I’m in a wheelchair and you’re not” and so forth. Something is spiritually out of whack for them, and the island is reacting to that. Preventing childbirth, withholding it’s regenerative abilities, sending forth the smoke monster, things like that. So the island brought a bunch of folks to set things right. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/52 "2007-04-12T05:37:50Z")
Jin is there to set right their fish deficit and clean the guns. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/53 "2007-04-12T05:39:00Z")
[QUOTE=anamnesis] Kate’s pregnancy will surely come into play later on. [/quote] Are you just assuming Kate’s going to end up pregnant after the Polar Bear Cage Romp? Or did I miss something? I don’t recall any such announcement on the show, or Kate taking a pregnancy test or anything… > [@](#): > > Sun didn’t get sick because they didn’t kidnap her. Claire’s symptomatic breakdown was intentionally engineered by them to occur when it did. Yes, but if Juliet’s original story is to be believed (and the flashbacks seem to confirm this), the pregnant women were dying of their own accord on the island. And according to Juliet, the kidnapping of Claire and administering of the drugs saved her from dying of whatever it was originally. (And then of course, they put an implant in her that could be activated later on, to manifest dangerous symptoms, according to the last Ben/Juliet scene). But presumably, without the original intervention by Ethan, Claire would have died on her own, just from being pregnant and on the island. So wouldn’t Sun be in danger of the same thing? Unless Juliet was lying, and the deadly whatsywhosit was only affecting women who actually conceived on the island (which Claire didn’t). There was a flashback comment about something happening right away at conception, after the pregnant woman died in the flashback. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/54 "2007-04-12T05:45:33Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Vincent’s not innocent. _whispers_ He _knows_ things. [/QUOTE] Vincent is probably… Jacob! aka The Dogfather. “Some day - and that day may never come - I’m going to ask you to bring me a Milk-Bone. But until that day…” ---
**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/55 "2007-04-12T06:06:10Z")
Well, I know that next week’s episode is going to be good. Every time I hear the Requiem For a Dream soundtrack in a preview, I know it’s going to be good. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/56 "2007-04-12T06:08:08Z")
What’s this about Kate being pregnant? -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/57 "2007-04-12T06:12:23Z")
Wow. That was a phenomenal episode-- I’d say the best one of the season. Phenomenal. More details later when I’m sober. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/58 "2007-04-12T06:14:19Z")
[QUOTE=Annie] Or Rousseau was far enough along in her pregnancy/not drinking the Other water/ sufficient distance from the Big Fraking magnet so it didn’t make her sick. So, when do they start trying to breed Alex like a zoo panda? [/QUOTE] That’s who I thought of when they were talking about the mothers’ problem. I could never bring myself to trust Juliet, and sure enough… Does next week’s ep. show anything of Penny, Desmond’s lover? ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/59 "2007-04-12T06:32:21Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages] Does next week’s ep. show anything of Penny, Desmond’s lover? [/QUOTE] There is a brief shot of the photo of Penny and Desmond in the scenes from upcoming episodes. Also from the scenes: [spoiler]They also showed the cover of a book called _Ardil-22_–apparently _Catch-22_ in Portuguese. Plus, Sawyer is gonna whack Locke on the head with a rock![/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652/60 "2007-04-12T06:49:01Z")
[QUOTE=Rich Mann] There is a brief shot of the photo of Penny and Desmond in the scenes from upcoming episodes. Also from the scenes: [spoiler]They also showed the cover of a book called _Ardil-22_–apparently _Catch-22_ in Portuguese. Plus, Sawyer is gonna whack Locke on the head with a rock![/spoiler] [/QUOTE] Was the spoilered part in the scenes from next week, or in the scenes from the rest of the season? -FrL- [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-16-one-of-us/399652.md?page=4)