# Lost 3.17: "Catch-22" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 18, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615 "2007-04-18T13:42:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/61 "2007-04-19T00:57:02Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] That’s exactly right, I thought you were lying. :rolleyes: Just a little good natured ribbing. Lighten up Francis. [/QUOTE] Whooooosh!! ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/62 "2007-04-19T01:35:25Z")
2 pages of comments and nobody’s talking about the episode? (Am I the only one to have seen the whole thing yet?) I have serious doubts Sawyer’s okay with letting Kate use him to get back at Jack, as familiar as the setup is to him. He’s becoming too emotionally invested for a good con. Also, I have a sad feeling that Desmond is going to blame Charlie for the parachuter turning out to be unknown woman instead of Penelope, because he saved Charlie’s life and changed the vision. And just generally, man, poor Desmond. His love for Penelope is true. ☹ So much love for Jin and Hurley this episode… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/63 "2007-04-19T02:04:33Z")
[QUOTE=Kythereia] 2 pages of comments and nobody’s talking about the episode? (Am I the only one to have seen the whole thing yet?) [/QUOTE] Probably so, because it just started here (Eastern Standard Time, USA). Bloody hell, it was only a vision. Ah well, Charlie still lives. For now. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/64 "2007-04-19T02:05:27Z")
Down here it just started. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/65 "2007-04-19T02:06:37Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Whooooosh!! [/QUOTE] It isn’t the first time and won’t be the last. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/66 "2007-04-19T02:14:06Z")
You need me to make you a mix tape? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/67 "2007-04-19T02:16:51Z")
Mix tape… nice. So Desmond wants the events he saw to occur. Who’s coming to the island – does he think it’s going to be Penny? Or does he just think that whoever is coming to the island will _help_ him eventually get back to Penny? So I wonder if that was one of Danielle’s traps (the one that speared Charlie in the vision). ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/68 "2007-04-19T02:24:47Z")
Kate’s trying to chat Jack up, and it’s not working. Jack gave her the cold shoulder, so now she needs a Bad Boy Bang to make her forget her sorrow… ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/69 "2007-04-19T02:25:03Z")
Desmond needs to keep his shirt open all the time. Korean poetry slam! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/70 "2007-04-19T02:37:29Z")
Ping pong. “If we don’t play every 108 minutes, the island’s going to explode”. Oooh, Sawyer’s figuring out why Kate jumped on him so eagerly. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/71 "2007-04-19T02:42:27Z")
I’m really enjoying this ep" ‘POW!’ _makes sign of the cross_ ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/72 "2007-04-19T03:00:06Z")
Hah! – Desmond climbs on Hurley like a stepladder. Sawyer gave her a mix tape. Sweet. It’s not Penny, but apparently it’s somebody that Penny send to find Des? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/73 "2007-04-19T03:02:49Z")
I found an old Pearls Before Swine from 2/19/07 that made me think of these threads. I haven’t been able to find it online so I will just have to quote it for you. Baby Crocodile: Hey dad, would you mind reading me some nursery rhymes? Papa Croc: _Sure ting son Jack be nimble Jack be quick Kill dat man He make me sick._ Baby Croc: Please don’t change the words. Papa Croc: \*But dis Jack very annoying. \* By the way, I have a Lost thread schtick, I hope it isn’t annoying. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/74 "2007-04-19T03:11:05Z")
Presumably the new person is Naomi > [@AICN](#): > > The new character Naomi, Carlton Cuse tells E! Online, “does not appear in a flashback, she is not an Other, and she is not one of the survivors of Flight 815." link (some spoilers about future flashbacks) > **['This Is Future Crap, Isn't It??' Brian K. Vaughn Writes LOST 3.17!!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/32331)** > > I am - Hercules!! LOST 3.17 FAQ What's it called? “Catch-22." Who's responsible? Teleplay is credited to Jeff Pinkner (“Not In Portland," “The Man From Tallahassee") & 29-year-old comic-book writer Brian K. Vaughan (“Y:... Brian ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/75 "2007-04-19T03:22:15Z")
Hey, was that the woman from the jewelry shop from Desmond’s previous flashback in the picture on the monk’s desk? It went by so fast, I wasn’t certain. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/76 "2007-04-19T03:29:05Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Hey, was that the woman from the jewelry shop from Desmond’s previous flashback in the picture on the monk’s desk? It went by so fast, I wasn’t certain. [/QUOTE] I was actually hoping someone would catch that–the camera pan was so deliberate I knew something had to be up with the picture, but I couldn’t see who it was… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/77 "2007-04-19T03:54:13Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Hey, was that the woman from the jewelry shop from Desmond’s previous flashback in the picture on the monk’s desk? It went by so fast, I wasn’t certain. [/QUOTE] Yes it was. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/78 "2007-04-19T04:53:30Z")
That was about the worst bit of P’shopping I’ve seen in that pic. Monks get to have pictures of them and chicks on their desks? Learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/79 "2007-04-19T05:07:08Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Mix tape… nice. [/QUOTE] Nice shout-out to Bernard. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/80 "2007-04-19T05:08:54Z")
[QUOTE=Annie] Desmond needs to keep his shirt open all the time. [/QUOTE] Why are most men nowadays shown with hairless chests (like Sawyer)? There’s no way I would shave mine… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615.md?page=5)