# Lost 3.17: "Catch-22" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 18, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615 "2007-04-18T13:42:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/161 "2007-04-20T00:36:51Z")
Bravo, **Monstre**! Pure genius! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/162 "2007-04-20T01:12:29Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver] Shouldn’t Desmond and the others, as Brits, have used the term “sacked” for how he stopped being a monk, instead of “fired”? [/QUOTE] No, we use both terms over here. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/163 "2007-04-20T01:13:58Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Anyways, I think you’re misreading Desmond’s flashbacks… he’s only acting on things that are important to him - like finding “Penny” or saving Charlie. [/QUOTE] But he didn’t give a damn about Paolo & Nicki. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/164 "2007-04-20T01:38:28Z")
[QUOTE=Peter Morris] But he didn’t give a damn about Paolo & Nicki. [/QUOTE] Who the hell is Paolo and Nicki? ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/165 "2007-04-20T01:49:16Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Who the hell is Paolo and Nicki? [/QUOTE] Peripheral characters to whom something rather shocking occurred in the episode of March 28th. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/166 "2007-04-20T02:00:01Z")
[QUOTE=pinkfreud] Peripheral characters to whom something rather shocking occurred in the episode of March 28th. [/QUOTE] There were these two really nice looking breasts. Were they attached to Nikki or Paolo? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/167 "2007-04-20T02:02:04Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver] Shouldn’t Desmond and the others, as Brits, have used the term “sacked” for how he stopped being a monk, instead of “fired”? [/QUOTE] Aren’t they Aussie, not Brit? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/168 "2007-04-20T02:06:39Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Who the hell is Paolo and Nicki? [/QUOTE] murder, diamonds, spiders, paralysis, live burial, remember? ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/169 "2007-04-20T02:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Aren’t they Aussie, not Brit? [/QUOTE] I took Desmond for a Scot, by his accent. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/170 "2007-04-20T02:16:59Z")
I’m not familiar enough with Australian accents to know if they had regional ones that might sound like that. ---
**Author:** ![wasson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@wasson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wasson)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/171 "2007-04-20T02:19:29Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I’m not familiar enough with Australian accents to know if they had regional ones that might sound like that. [/QUOTE] I took Desmond as being Scottish since he was in the Royal Scots. Oh, and since he lived in Scotland and spoke with a Scottish accent. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/172 "2007-04-20T02:28:41Z")
[QUOTE=wasson] I took Desmond as being Scottish since he was in the Royal Scots. Oh, and since he lived in Scotland and spoke with a Scottish accent. [/QUOTE] And drank Scotch and had a Scottish Terrier and used Scotch tape… > [@](#): > > murder, diamonds, spiders, paralysis, live burial, remember? I was a joke. Dude Nikki is dead. Who the hell is Nikki? ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/173 "2007-04-20T02:36:24Z")
[QUOTE=wasson] I took Desmond as being Scottish since he was in the Royal Scots. [/QUOTE] Oh now I do remember that, but wasn’t he living in Australia? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/174 "2007-04-20T02:40:48Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Oh now I do remember that, but wasn’t he living in Australia? [/QUOTE] Not once were we ever given that indication. 🙂 He did live in London. Maybe there’s another one in Australia. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/175 "2007-04-20T02:46:49Z")
Desmond is a Scot. His last name is Hume. We do know that he was in America preparing for a round the world boat race where he ran into Jack as well as Libby. As far as we know, he never made it to Australia on part of his race. We don’t know why we was coming out of a military jail prior to the race. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/176 "2007-04-20T02:49:22Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] I was a joke. Dude Nikki is dead. Who the hell is Nikki? [/QUOTE] Ah, consider me whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/177 "2007-04-20T03:14:44Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] > [@Peter Morris](#): > > But he didn’t give a damn about Paolo & Nicki. Who the hell is Paolo and Nicki? [/QUOTE] _snort!_ _watches the whooshes fly by_ > [@Loach](#): > > I was a joke. Don’t be so hard on yourself… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/178 "2007-04-20T03:20:45Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Oh now I do remember that, but wasn’t he living in Australia? [/QUOTE] No. Remember, Desmond isn’t a Flight 815 survivor. He was sailing east across the Pacific when he wrecked on the Island and was rescued by Kelvin, who then put him to work for Dharma in the hatch for three years. Desmond’s Scottishness has been well-established in his flashback episodes. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/179 "2007-04-20T03:33:48Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver] No. Remember, Desmond isn’t a Flight 815 survivor. He was sailing east across the Pacific when he wrecked on the Island and was rescued by Kelvin, who then put him to work for Dharma in the hatch for three years. Desmond’s Scottishness has been well-established in his flashback episodes. [/QUOTE] I have a notoriously bad memory for details of tv shows–if I don’t watch the “previously on 24” for example, I can’t remember pretty much ANY of the plot (and I can never remember character names, even of shows I watch religiously for years). I did remember that he wasn’t a plane crash survivor, but I guess I had it in my head that that boat thing he was in was an Australian thing–isn’t there some huge boat event in Australia? That is what was throwing me off. I also have a very easy time suspending my disbelief regarding accents–if the actor’s accent isn’t a major key factor in the plot I usually don’t even hear it. I am sometimes jarred by Chase’s accent on House because I forget he isn’t American–I just don’t “hear” the Aussie accent most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615/180 "2007-04-20T04:48:27Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] That’s plausible, especially since some of the larger yachts have onboard helicopters. But we’ve been told that you can’t navigate to the island, especially after the sonar signal was destroyed by the electromagnetic anomaly, so how did the helicopter find the island? [/QUOTE] Same way the plane dropping the food does, probably. Perhaps there’s some sort of secret method known only to DHARMA, and the others are only able to use the beacon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-17-catch-22/400615.md?page=10)