# Lost 3.20: "The Man Behind the Curtain" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398 "2007-05-09T15:10:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/21 "2007-05-10T02:17:08Z")
Locke isn’t taking any shit. Now that’s the old Locke! However, I will now predict that since Locke called Ben out as the Man Behind the Curtain this early in the episode that there must now be an actual Jacob. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/22 "2007-05-10T02:17:22Z")
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen] who’s the man now, ben? hmm? [/QUOTE] Yes!!! Like a warrior poet. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/23 "2007-05-10T02:18:14Z")
about time somebody twisted ben’s panties a little. i enjoyed that… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/24 "2007-05-10T02:20:48Z")
what did annie just say? ‘it’s just a …’ ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/25 "2007-05-10T02:21:48Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Heh – Locke is espousing this theory right away. And Ben wasn’t born on the island – according to the flashback. It was 30-something miles outside of Portland. [/QUOTE] And Portland is the one place we know the island isn’t. I’m digging this so far. If Ben somehow turns this around to his advantage (Ha Locke! I planned for you to humiliate me in front of my men, usurp my authority, and sidetrack my mission to take the parachuter!), I’ll be _pissed_. Roger Work Man was in the VW, no? Where have we heard the name Goodwin before? I wanna say Penny’s dad, but the accents don’t match up. Lots of juicy bits this episode. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/26 "2007-05-10T02:24:07Z")
Wow, Ben’s dad is a belligerent loudmouthed asswipe. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/27 "2007-05-10T02:27:40Z")
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen] about time somebody twisted ben’s panties a little. i enjoyed that… 😛 [/QUOTE] Unless somehow Ben is manipulating John into making him go see Jacob – because that’s what he wanted in the first place? > [@Menocchio](#): > > Where have we heard the name Goodwin before? I wanna say Penny’s dad, but the accents don’t match up. Well, Goodwin was the guy that Ana Lucia killed – the infiltrator of the Tailies. Is there a Goodwin in this episode? I must have missed the mention of that name, if so. Ben’s got a little girlfriend…! ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/28 "2007-05-10T02:29:22Z")
dad’s no prize, is he? yow, what a thing to say to a child. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/29 "2007-05-10T02:34:08Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Well, Goodwin was the guy that Ana Lucia killed – the infiltrator of the Tailies. Is there a Goodwin in this episode? I must have missed the mention of that name, if so. [/QUOTE] Goodwin was also Juliet’s boyfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/30 "2007-05-10T02:34:57Z")
Man, Ben’s dad is a total prick. So is little Ben running away join the Hostiles? Boy – good thing for Sun that Jin still doesn’t know that much English. If he understood everything said on that tape he might put 2 and 2 together and realize why she went to get ultrasounded. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/31 "2007-05-10T02:35:50Z")
Ben has daddy issues? Well, that’s different. 😃 Jack: Yeah, I’ll say you guys have some catching up to do. Hey, maybe Jacob is a volcano? I walked away from the TV for a second, what was it Locke saw on the ground? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/32 "2007-05-10T02:36:01Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Goodwin was also Juliet’s boyfriend. [/QUOTE] Right, but was somebody identified as Goodwin in this one (in the flashback)? Was it one of the schoolkids? If so, I must have not been paying close enough attention. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/33 "2007-05-10T02:36:28Z")
in any case, jack isn’t the only one to see a deceased family member on the island. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/34 "2007-05-10T02:38:08Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] I walked away from the TV for a second, what was it Locke saw on the ground? [/QUOTE] Some line of dust or something on the ground – like a boundary or perimeter to something, perhaps? That bunny has red demon eyes! ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/35 "2007-05-10T02:38:15Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Well, Goodwin was the guy that Ana Lucia killed – the infiltrator of the Tailies. Is there a Goodwin in this episode? I must have missed the mention of that name, if so. [/QUOTE] That’s what I heard the name of the guy that recruited Ben’s dad for the Island. I may be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/36 "2007-05-10T02:42:13Z")
Was that Richard, meeting young Ben in the jungle? Looking not much older than he does now…? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/37 "2007-05-10T02:47:00Z")
well **that** was some weird shit. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/38 "2007-05-10T02:47:33Z")
okay THAT was creepy. WTF??? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/39 "2007-05-10T02:48:10Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Some line of dust or something on the ground – like a boundary or perimeter to something, perhaps? That bunny has red demon eyes! [/QUOTE] Jacob’s the bunny! :eek: A relative of Harvey, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/40 "2007-05-10T02:50:16Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Was that Richard, meeting young Ben in the jungle? Looking not much older than he does now…? [/QUOTE] Sure as hell was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398.md?page=3)