# Lost 3.20: "The Man Behind the Curtain" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398 "2007-05-09T15:10:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/41 "2007-05-10T02:53:08Z")
who is richard? i forget. and does anybody think daddy is about to meet his maker? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/42 "2007-05-10T02:57:27Z")
Wow – so did Ben secretly give the Hostiles the means to invade Dharma-ville? What did they gas everybody with? Nerve gas? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/43 "2007-05-10T03:00:08Z")
I’ve got it freeze framed on that one second shot of Jacob. I can’t tell anything. Heavily shadowed, wearing a purplish shirt, kinda looked like Dennis Hopper. Ben can see him but only Locke can hear him? Locke better be OK. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/44 "2007-05-10T03:00:28Z")
Holy crap! Is that really the end for Locke? Nooooooooo! And it seems that maybe Alex knew that something like that might be in the works? Giving Locke a gun, but he wasn’t fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/45 "2007-05-10T03:01:32Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Holy crap! Is that really the end for Locke? Nooooooooo! [/QUOTE] Locke’s a fast healer. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/46 "2007-05-10T03:01:59Z")
should never have turned away from ben. crazy as a bedbug, that one. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/47 "2007-05-10T03:05:40Z")
I think it may be time to dust off the old “they’re all dead” theory. I mean, they aren’t, and the island isn’t the afterlife, but maybe it’s something in between? I’m avoiding the word “limbo”, but maybe it’s a place that’s partially accessible for the living and the dead. The Dharma project discovered it, and tried to build a research station in heaven, but they failed to accouint for the people who came there before. From both sides. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/48 "2007-05-10T03:05:49Z")
Man, I have never liked a villan as much as I like Ben. I don’t root for him but he’s just fucking crafty. “I was smart enough not to end up in that ditch. That makes me smarter than you, John.” BLAM! I’m starting to like Locke again. I too hope he’s not dead. **Scubaqueen** : What scene are you talking about, re: Annie? ---
**Author:** ![av8rmike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@av8rmike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/av8rmike)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/49 "2007-05-10T03:06:13Z")
But what happened to Annie? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/50 "2007-05-10T03:08:12Z")
What was Horace’s job (on his coveralls)? Manager? Will Rousseau bring the dynamite to help the losties? (not likely, but she has to fit in somewhere) is Jacob a manifestation of the TCM? Brian ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/51 "2007-05-10T03:08:27Z")
John, John, John. I saw that coming why didn’t you? Why the hell would you turn your back on that guy? So apparently, in order to join The Hostiles club, you have to kill your father? Okay, some sort of dust perimeter around Jacob’s place. Only Ben can see him. Jacob wants Locke to help him. Is he a trapped spirit of some sort? Is this going to be paranormal? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/52 "2007-05-10T03:08:52Z")
So what do we make of Richard? Has the Island kept him young? Did he die and we are seeing the dead walk (although he has been off-island). Why is he taking orders from Ben? ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/53 "2007-05-10T03:09:05Z")
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen] who is richard? i forget. and does anybody think daddy is about to meet his maker? [/QUOTE] Richard Alpert, who recruited Juliet and gave Locke Sawyer’s file. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/54 "2007-05-10T03:10:41Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Okay, some sort of dust perimeter around Jacob’s place. [/QUOTE] It was the smoke monster. It was asleep. ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/55 "2007-05-10T03:13:50Z")
[QUOTE=av8rmike] But what happened to Annie? ☹ [/QUOTE] back in the classroom, when the teacher armed herself, there was a klaxon going off and the windows suddenly grew heavy-duty screens. annie, the girl who gave ben the carved birthday presents, 'it’s just a ‘something or other.’ i didn’t catch what she said. was it hostiles? oops. i meant to reply to **zipperjj.** but you all get the answer, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/56 "2007-05-10T03:14:51Z")
[QUOTE=Scubaqueen] i didn’t catch what she said. was it hostiles? [/QUOTE] Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/57 "2007-05-10T03:18:55Z")
[QUOTE=ZipperJJ] Man, I have never liked a villan as much as I like Ben. … [/QUOTE] And he has such pretty green eyes. :smack: Stop that! At least they got a kid with the same color eyes to play his younger self. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/58 "2007-05-10T03:19:46Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Some line of dust or something on the ground – like a boundary or perimeter to something, perhaps? That bunny has red demon eyes! [/QUOTE] Could it have been volcano sand? ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/59 "2007-05-10T03:20:43Z")
[QUOTE=Sir Prize] So what do we make of Richard? Has the Island kept him young? Did he die and we are seeing the dead walk (although he has been off-island). Why is he taking orders from Ben? [/QUOTE] i keep telling the dive master they’ve hooked themselves into some way to alter time. i’m hardly the expert on this, but, either they’re moving back and forth in time. they gotta be. when you factor in the anomaly, what else could it be? why else would richard be looking the same as he did when ben was a boy? ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398/60 "2007-05-10T03:21:25Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] And he has such pretty green eyes. :smack: Stop that! At least they got a kid with the same color eyes to play his younger self. [/QUOTE] I thought the kid was actually very good casting. I could see him growing up to look like Ben. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-20-the-man-behind-the-curtain/403398.md?page=4)