# Lost 3.21: Greatest Hits
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 16, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361 "2007-05-16T19:44:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/81 "2007-05-17T15:42:01Z")
[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]
[Yeah](http://www.uncw.edu/aquarius/), search for “undersea laboratory”.
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How wonderful! Thank you!
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### Author:  [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/82 "2007-05-17T15:44:04Z")
Even more simple: Why not just shoot them? If they are coming up to the tents, why not just hide and shoot them in the back?
Remind me: where is the cache of weapons from the hatch? Were they all destroyed in the hatch explosion?
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### Author:  [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/83 "2007-05-17T15:46:34Z")
[QUOTE=Trion]
Not only can I believe it, I can see the Pit thread now:
**A Driveshaft “Greatest Hits” CD? You’re Fucking Kidding Me, Right?**
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Great, now I can’t stop thinking up thread titles that could be started by people in the _Lost_ universe.
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### Author:  [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/84 "2007-05-17T15:50:00Z")
[QUOTE=middleman]
Even more simple: Why not just shoot them? If they are coming up to the tents, why not just hide and shoot them in the back?
Remind me: where is the cache of weapons from the hatch? Were they all destroyed in the hatch explosion?
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I’m also wondering how they talked Sawyer into simply walking off to the tower. Seems to me like he would want to stay behind with his personal pistol and help out somehow.
Yeah, I think most of the weapons went poof. But, seeing as how the ping-pong table survived, you’d think they would be able to find one or two of the guns laying around in the jungle.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/85 "2007-05-17T15:51:17Z")
> [@](#):
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> Speaking of rabbits, what the heck is it with Ben’s family killing bunnies? First ben uses them (multiple times) for his plans and now Alex is chopping one up for her man.
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> I like eating rabbit but that just seems to be a vendetta.
Well…
> [@](#):
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> Bunnies aren’t just cute like everybody supposes: They have them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses.
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> And what’s with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
😉
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### Author:  [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/86 "2007-05-17T15:59:15Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910]
Great, now I can’t stop thinking up thread titles that could be started by people in the _Lost_ universe.
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**Pit- Why the fuck does everyone keep saying _Namaste_ at work?**
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### Author:  [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/87 "2007-05-17T16:01:26Z")
[QUOTE=middleman]
**Pit- Why the fuck does everyone keep saying _Namaste_ at work?**
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**PIT**
_Posted by JungleBunnyX0X0 at 4:12pm_ : Stop Killing My Fucking Boyfriends, “Dad”
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/88 "2007-05-17T16:13:56Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]
I thought this was a really good episode. BUT, if it turns out that everything that is happening is just Ben manipulating everyone (ie, making a fake plan with Juliet, knowing she’ll act exactly the way she’s acting, knowing the Losties will act exactly the way they’re acting, knowing Charlie will end up where he is yada yada yada) so that Ben once again ends up totally winning and being in control and the Lostie plans all fail… if that happens, I will be upset.
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I understand how you feel… although I got the impression from Ben’s attitude in this one that not _everything_ goes to his plan. He seemed genuinely upset about how recent events fell out regarding Locke and Jacob. He came back to the camp seriously pissed off. Perhaps at his own people for liking Locke too much? He didn’t seem quite as “in control” as he usually does.
> [@Team of Scientists](#):
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> But what are they gonna use to cut a giant cable? You can’t just take any old knife and saw through a bundle of intertwined wires. I bet the dynamite wouldn’t even be able to sever the cable completely. That thing looks thick.
They have the axe, which Michael used to cut the handcuffs off of Jin. Maybe that would hack through it, maybe not. Worth a try before taking a deadly swim, though.
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### Author:  [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/89 "2007-05-17T16:23:23Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910]
Great, now I can’t stop thinking up thread titles that could be started by people in the _Lost_ universe.
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IMHO - Should I take this job at Mittelos Bioscience?
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### Author:  [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/90 "2007-05-17T16:25:07Z")
I just saw some pictures at sledgeweb’s site. Apparently the Charlie flashback is not the same as the Desmond one. Same events, but different clothes.
Odd.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/91 "2007-05-17T16:25:24Z")
[QUOTE=Trion]
Well, sure. But I gotta tell you, I’ve been to a lot of meetings in my life where people sit down and calmly talk about their plans and strategies. And every single one of those meetings would have greatly benefited from somebody blowing something up.
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That would sure beat the hell out of a boring PowerPoint presentation… 😃
> [@tanstaafl](#):
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> They also keep saying that they are going to use the “radio phone” to contact Naomi’s ship, which is sitting 70 miles away.
If Naomi’s ship is still in the nearby vicinity, I would think they’d be swarming the area with search parties – looking for Naomi’s chopper that never returned. So where are the search parties?
> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> I think Ben sent everyone to start the kidnapping and killing early for no real reason other than to get the camp het up so that no one would ask questions about Locke.
I agree, but I think part of it was also Mikhail’s news of Naomi parachuting to the island – Mikhail was urging haste last week, and Ben was about to go with it, when Locke pounded Mikhail’s face into kibble and pretty much demanded top priority. So I think it’s two things – (1) Ben reasserting his authority, and (2) Ben moving up the schedule because of Naomi and the phone. He doesn’t want any rescue parties showing up before he can kidnap any more pregnant chicks.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/92 "2007-05-17T16:29:48Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver]
Still, we should remember that for the 815ers it’s still late 2004 and they’ve only been on the island for 90 days. Is it credible that a greatest hits CD could be produced and rushed into stores that quickly? Would they have gotten it ready for the Christmas rush?
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Don’t forget, Charlie had a new CD scheduled to come out just a few weeks after the plane went down. It wouldn’t be very hard to take all of the songs he had planned, add a few Driveshaft singles and package the whole thing as “Charlie Pace: The Lost Recordings.”
Working with the ninety day timeline, it probably was released a few days before Naomi left on the boat, just in time for Christmas.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/93 "2007-05-17T16:44:12Z")
Just some thoughts:
We never saw Charlie’s dad actually teach him to swim. He was holding him up above water and Charlie was pretending to swim.
I agree that the part about Jack not telling all those folks what he was going to do and dragging them out in the jungle was pretty far fetched. And blowing up the tree was really stupid. Why risk alerting The Others about what you are doing?
Isn’t there some concern that Alex might be part of the kidnapping party and they might blow her up, too? Granted, she’s shown signs of being anti-Ben, but who knows how Ben might be able to manipulate her into participating.
When Charlie dove down to the underwater station, I knew it was going to have people there. I didn’t expect it to look like something out of a James Bond movie, though.
It seems very much like “The Hostiles” have been waiting for a Messiah figure, and that Ben is actually more of a steward holding them together until that happens. Maybe they thought Locke could be that person.
I didn’t recognize Nadia. Good call whoever spotted that. I thought it was going to be a set-up and that Charlie was going to get mugged.
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### Author:  [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/94 "2007-05-17T16:47:39Z")
[QUOTE=tanstaafl]
Oh yeah, Charlie said in a very early episode (I think it was _White Rabbit_, ironically enough) that he couldn’t swim.
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Hey, you’re right. Here’s the [transcript](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/White_Rabbit_transcript). Right at the start – when Jack has to head out to save Boone from drowning, when Boone was trying to save the woman who did drown. Charlie gets Jack, and says, “I don’t swim!”
> [@middleman](#):
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> - I agree. The explosion in the woods was ridiculous. Couldn’t Jack have just told them? However, that explosion WAS really cool.
Jack: “We blew up a few military installations… well, potential military installations… okay, trees.”
> [@John Mace](#):
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> It seems very much like “The Hostiles” have been waiting for a Messiah figure, and that Ben is actually more of a steward holding them together until that happens. Maybe they thought Locke could be that person.
Ben doesn’t want to give up power – and he’s been communicating with Sauron (Jacob) with the palantir.
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### Author:  [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/95 "2007-05-17T16:48:23Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre]
If Naomi’s ship is still in the nearby vicinity, I would think they’d be swarming the area with search parties – looking for Naomi’s chopper that never returned. So where are the search parties?
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Good point. You would think that an S&R vessel would have radar and that they would therefore know about where Naomi’s helicopter went down so they should have some idea as to where to concentrate their search even if the Island is somehow “Invisible”. It is odd that it has been several days and that there is no further sign of a search.
Or they’re on R’lyeh. Who knows.
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### Author:  [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/96 "2007-05-17T17:11:06Z")
Interesting observation by [Doc Jensen over at Entertainment Weekly](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20039187,00.html). Juliet was supposed to mark the tents of the pregnant women with _White Stones_. Instead, the tents will contain dynamite from the _Black Rock_.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/97 "2007-05-17T17:18:24Z")
In the previews for next week, we see Ben saying something like _Shoot them [all]_, and the Lostaways are gagged, on their knees just like the end of last year’s season. My guess is that this will be the cliff hanger and that…
… next season will open with Locke miraculously showing up in the nick of time to save the day.
No real spoiler in there, just my own educated guess.
I also assume that after next week, we wait until Feb '08 for the season 4 premier.
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### Author:  [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/98 "2007-05-17T17:20:47Z")
[QUOTE=middleman]
I just saw some pictures at sledgeweb’s site. Apparently the Charlie flashback is not the same as the Desmond one. Same events, but different clothes.
Odd.
[/QUOTE]
My wife was wondering about this. Shouldn’t Desmond have interrupted him just before it started raining?
-FrL-
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### Author:  [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/99 "2007-05-17T17:22:02Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace]
In the previews for next week, we see Ben saying something like _Shoot them [all]_, and the Lostaways are gagged, on their knees just like the end of last year’s season. My guess is that this will be the cliff hanger and that…
… next season will open with Locke miraculously showing up in the nick of time to save the day.
No real spoiler in there, just my own educated guess.
I also assume that after next week, we wait until Feb '08 for the season 4 premier.
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I was thinking it was going to be the beginning of a mutiny amonst the Others but now I bet you’re right.
-FrL-
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/100 "2007-05-17T17:25:23Z")
[QUOTE=tanstaafl]
Good point. You would think that an S&R vessel would have radar and that they would therefore know about where Naomi’s helicopter went down so they should have some idea as to where to concentrate their search even if the Island is somehow “Invisible”. It is odd that it has been several days and that there is no further sign of a search.
Or they’re on R’lyeh. Who knows.
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They might be. Perhaps the ship only had one helicopter (not many carry more than one, really) and so they sent parties out on boats to the last known position of the helicopter. But considering it went down over the ocean, and they weren’t sure where to start looking, they might’ve started looking, on foot, halfway across the island from the beach where the Losties live.
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