# Lost 3.21: Greatest Hits

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 16, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361 "2007-05-16T19:44:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/161 "2007-05-19T04:46:36Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
I’d like to see Michael come walking up the beach and then see Hurley calmly and cooly pick up a rifle, chamber a round, and then put one right between Michael’s eyes at 200 yards.  
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“Damn, Jack.”

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/162 "2007-05-19T12:24:47Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
I’d like to see Michael come walking up the beach and then see Hurley calmly and cooly pick up a rifle, chamber a round, and then put one right between Michael’s eyes at 200 yards.  
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Michael (standing next to Walt): WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT  
Hurley: Shut the fuck up, dude.  
_BANG_

Best Lost scene ever.

-Joe

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/163 "2007-05-19T18:04:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Michael (standing next to Walt): WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT  
Hurley: Shut the fuck up, dude.  
_BANG_

Best Lost scene ever.

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Especially if Michael’s head explodes and splatters just like the Dharma Ranch Dressing.

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/164 "2007-05-20T01:13:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Monstre]  
Especially if Michael’s head explodes and splatters just like the Dharma Ranch Dressing.  
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Nice…

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### Author: ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/165 "2007-05-20T02:18:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
Desmond told Charlie that he was going to die in “a hatch”. FWIW, which isn’t much.  
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Are you sure he didn’t say in a [_hutch?_](http://www.owenmagic.com/Livestock/Rabbit_Hutch/2003C.jpg)

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/166 "2007-05-20T05:43:45Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleRojelio]  
I’d like to see Michael come walking up the beach and then see Hurley calmly and cooly pick up a rifle, chamber a round, and then put one right between Michael’s eyes at 200 yards.  
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Well, that’s not cold. 😃

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/167 "2007-05-20T05:46:31Z")

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[QUOTE=middleman]  
I think Tom (Bluebeard) will bite it so the others have some casualties in the battle.  
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I’d actually hate to see that, because I think Tom (Friendly) has become an interesting character. Off some Other redshirts instead.

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### Author: ![PerditaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@PerditaX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PerditaX)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/168 "2007-05-20T13:16:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
Are you sure he didn’t say in a [_hutch?_](http://www.owenmagic.com/Livestock/Rabbit_Hutch/2003C.jpg)  
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Well, we _were_ discussing the recurring rabbit motif. 😃

Anybody notice who was holding Vincent’s leash? That dog is the Harbinger of Death! :eek:

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### Author: ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/169 "2007-05-20T14:59:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth]  
I’d actually hate to see that, because I think Tom (Friendly) has become an interesting character. Off some Other redshirts instead.  
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I agree he is awesome. But they can’t just kill off scrubs.

However, I will say I wouldn’t want to be Carl. He’s a gonner for sure.

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### Author: ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/170 "2007-05-21T05:35:02Z")

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I came here to say two things.

1. cut the cable, idiots. Use dynamite. Okay, someone already mentioned that one.

2. Charlie’s dive - anyone else thinking “Tomb Raider,” yes?

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### Author: ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/171 "2007-05-21T16:59:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth]  
I’d actually hate to see that, because I think Tom (Friendly) has become an interesting character. Off some Other redshirts instead.  
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Speaking of Tom, were we ever given a reason why he was wearing a fake beard? What possible purpose could that have served, since none of the 815ers knew who he was?

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### Author: ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/172 "2007-05-21T17:18:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Fiver]  
Speaking of Tom, were we ever given a reason why he was wearing a fake beard? What possible purpose could that have served, since none of the 815ers knew who he was?  
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That’s one of those _mysteries_ that mean nothing now but will make perfect sense in 2010.

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### Author: ![wasson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4da419/32.png) [@wasson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wasson)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/173 "2007-05-21T18:05:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Fiver]  
Speaking of Tom, were we ever given a reason why he was wearing a fake beard? What possible purpose could that have served, since none of the 815ers knew who he was?  
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I think it was because they wanted the Losties to think The Others were primitive, rough, unkempt natives. Not civilized people with razors and shaving cream and running water. So they messed up his hair and gave him a huge beard to hide behind.

It makes sense to me… I’m not sure this is a “mystery” that needs to be solved.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/174 "2007-05-21T18:10:31Z")

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[QUOTE=wasson]  
I think it was because they wanted the Losties to think The Others were primitive, rough, unkempt natives. Not civilized people with razors and shaving cream and running water. So they messed up his hair and gave him a huge beard to hide behind.

It makes sense to me… I’m not sure this is a “mystery” that needs to be solved.  
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Right – it was all part of the grubby, grungy, barefoot in the woods costume getups. Kate found the locker with the costumes and the fake beards and stage glue. It was the image they were trying to project, rather than the “we live in a suburban village with electricity, running water, and nice clean clothes” truth of things.

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### Author: ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/175 "2007-05-21T19:45:53Z")

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Although, from the look of Richard Alpert when he first met Ben, these weren’t merely costumes - they were how the island natives actually dressed before they “purged” Dharma and stole all their modern goodies.

I imagine that also explains the primitive village where they held Michael at the end of season 2 - it makes little sense that people living in modern homes would go so far as to create a whole village just to fool someone. But if it was already there, then populating it for a little while is actually a reasonable amount of effort to achieve that end.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/176 "2007-05-21T19:56:32Z")

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[QUOTE=cmkeller]  
Although, from the look of Richard Alpert when he first met Ben, these weren’t merely costumes - they were how the island natives actually dressed before they “purged” Dharma and stole all their modern goodies.  
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Not quite. Richard was dressed rather “primitively”, but his clothes weren’t torn and he wasn’t dirty. The Others first presented themselves to our Losties as basically being in rags. Except, of course, Ethan and Goodwin-- who blended in just fine.

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### Author: ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/177 "2007-05-21T20:14:03Z")

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In fact, although I’m no expert in period clothing, Richard’s clothes looked like they were 18th century, early 19th century. Could be the original hostiles came in from the Black Rock?

Of course, I also suck at theorizing for this show, but hey.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/178 "2007-05-21T20:17:25Z")

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[QUOTE=BayleDomon]  
In fact, although I’m no expert in period clothing, Richard’s clothes looked like they were 18th century, early 19th century. Could be the original hostiles came in from the Black Rock?  
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Could be. Of course, even if they were from the BR, they probably weren’t the “original” hostiles. I’m thinking we’d have to go back at least 2,000 years to find them (remember the 4-toed statue). It could be that successive waves of people came to the island, found it’s magical properties to be worth hanging around for, and fought against whatever new arrivals there have been. Of course, that doesn’t explain how the latest "natives’ have such strong links to the outside world that they can send out recruiters, or get “detailed files” on people so easily.

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### Author: ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/179 "2007-05-21T20:18:43Z")

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I disagree, John. [Here’s](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:3x20-AlpertHostile.jpg) a picture of Richard from Ben’s flashback - those clothes are ragged.

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### Author: ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2007, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-21-greatest-hits/404361/180 "2007-05-21T20:23:06Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Of course, that doesn’t explain how the latest "natives’ have such strong links to the outside world that they can send out recruiters, or get “detailed files” on people so easily.  
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Ben? He left the world at a young age, but he must have had at least some working knowledge of the Dharma institution, even just being a Work Man. He probably would have been able to figure out how to get back to the world and wanted to lead the hostiles on some quixotic expedition, perhaps to find Locke or someone like him.

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