# Lost 3.4:  Every Man for Himself

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 25, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881 "2006-10-25T19:39:21Z")
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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/1 "2006-10-25T19:39:21Z")

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So, Locke is going to try and rescue the captives, and it looks like The Others are going to get medieval on Sawyer tonight. Maybe we have some Sawyer backstory, too? Duuuuuuude!!!

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From the ABC “Lost” website:

\*\* Every Man for Himself\*\* Sawyer finds out how serious his captors are in making sure he and Kate don’t attempt to escape.

Some useful Café Society links are given below:

Thread index for Season 1 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277083) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278382) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279542) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280792) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=281998) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283328) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284665) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=285925) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=287237) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289514) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290718) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=295320) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296591) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297760) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301602) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302710) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304986) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309511) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310613) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315048) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317139) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318051)

Thread index for Season 2 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=335991) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337167) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338307) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339366) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=340432) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343878) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=345144) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=346239) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347177) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353542) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354691) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=355716) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357834) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359015) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=361048) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363982) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=365010) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=366081) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367064) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=370033) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371010) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371991)

Thread index for Season 3 episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390771) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=391722) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=392661)

[The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221)

Official “Lost” Questions Thread[Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542), [Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040), [Season 3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390739)

Here are some interesting external links:

[The Lost Report](http://hometown.aol.com/qcotms/myhomepage/index.html): A very well written summary of the most current episode often containing interesting insights. I don’t think you’ll find spoilers.

[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!

[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).

[Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers.

[Lostpedia](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page): The wikipedia of Lost information. Quite a comprehensive site, but beware of spoilers!

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### Author: ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/2 "2006-10-25T21:36:03Z")

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Does anyone know at what time the video of tonight’s episode becomes available for viewing on [abc.com](http://abc.com)? I’m working the overnight shift tonight and would love to catch it at 3am if it’s possible!

Looks like it’s going to be a really intense episode. I hope the previews aren’t misleading us, and we actually _do_ get some answers this time.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/3 "2006-10-25T23:25:10Z")

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I checke the ABC web site, and it didn’t say.

Wow, 90 minutes to tee time, and no comments about the show. Are we losing interest? Oh ye of little faith! 🙂

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### Author: ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/4 "2006-10-25T23:59:16Z")

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Looks like it’s playing early on a different channel here, so I won’t miss it after all!

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### Author: ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/5 "2006-10-26T00:44:54Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Wow, 90 minutes to tee time, and no comments about the show. Are we losing interest?  
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No … but if I think about it too much before it comes on, my head might explode.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/6 "2006-10-26T01:00:06Z")

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Or implode.

Go time, east coasters!

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/7 "2006-10-26T01:07:10Z")

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Jack’s watching cartoons under duress. heh

Bad timing for Juliet.  
Julie: “I don’t answer to Ben. We make decisions together.”  
Ben: “Juliet! Come! Heel!”

Sawyer’s pushing buttons. hahaha – “What do I have to do, talk about your mother?”

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/8 "2006-10-26T01:16:13Z")

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Oh yeah, that’s right. Benry’s listening in on everything Sawyer and Kate say. So much for the grand plan.

Wow, Sayid’s whipping boy (Benry) actually can fight.

That’s a big ass needle…

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### Author: ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/9 "2006-10-26T01:20:09Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
I checke the ABC web site, and it didn’t say.

Wow, 90 minutes to tee time, and no comments about the show. Are we losing interest? Oh ye of little faith! 🙂  
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Hard to comment on something I haven’t seen.

Here’s my prediction though. The Others will do evil, mysterious, unexplainable things. The Losties will sit around, not the least bit curious about their circumstances or making any effort to change them. Insterspersed with meaningless, time-wasting flashbacks.

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### Author: ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/10 "2006-10-26T01:20:54Z")

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Sawyer is stupid. Dumb dumb dumb. And the rest of the Losties are frickin morons. Why?

Because what kind of idiot thinks a little bitty scab without a scar is enough to install a pacemaker? And because those idiots, despite being on a fricking sailboat, _still_ don’t realize there are two islands!!!

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/11 "2006-10-26T01:26:22Z")

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Benry killed da wabbit!

And Ben says, “We’re the good guys, Michael.”

Everything I’ve seen still says Ben’s a total dick.

Mmmmm… topless Kate. and it’s going to make Sawyer’s heart explode.

So how’s he supposed to keep it a secret from Kate if the little watch/monitor is beeping constantly?

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### Author: ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/12 "2006-10-26T01:30:54Z")

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Clementine???

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### Author: ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/13 "2006-10-26T01:38:07Z")

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…okay, Lost has lost me. What was the point of that little outburst?

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### Author: ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/14 "2006-10-26T01:39:21Z")

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They put a pacemaker in without a surgeon, eh?

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/15 "2006-10-26T01:39:21Z")

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Damn, what was that all about? Pickett flipping out of course because his wife ate it, but what was the whole “Do you love him?” about? Was he going to kill Sawyer unless Kate loved him?

Sawyer’s going to need a couple more fish biscuits to get his strength back.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/16 "2006-10-26T01:42:46Z")

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Flashback-Sawyer’s pulling the con on the fellow prisoner. Wonder if Sawyer’s actually in cahoots with the warden?

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/17 "2006-10-26T01:46:29Z")

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Now Benry’s going to have to force feed Kate lots of carbs and sweets, fatten her up so she can’t get through the cage again.

Benry: “Now Meester Sawyer, you vill tell me what I vant to know, or I will kill zis cute little bunny wabbit! Muhahahah!”

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### Author: ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/18 "2006-10-26T01:49:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Monstre]  
Now Benry’s going to have to force feed Kate lots of carbs and sweets, fatten her up so she can’t get through the cage again.

Benry: “Now Meester Sawyer, you vill tell me what I vant to know, or I will kill zis cute little bunny wabbit! Muhahahah!”  
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He could just feed her the rabbits…

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/19 "2006-10-26T01:50:03Z")

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Innnnnnnnnnteresting. Jack’s there because they need a spinal surgeon?

So instead of going to a doc’s office, they just abducted one. Maybe their insurance lapsed.

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### Author: ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/20 "2006-10-26T01:53:53Z")

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Nice to know Desmond can still see the future.

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