# Lost 3.4:  Every Man for Himself

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 25, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881 "2006-10-25T19:39:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/201 "2006-10-28T01:55:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]  
Do we know whether the actors playing Walt or his dad are scheduled to make appearances on the show anymore?

Or are they just… gone?

-FrL-  
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Yes. In the podcast they said that they’d be back. Apparently, they need to set some other stuff up first. Probably not until after the break.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/202 "2006-10-28T02:55:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]  
But Sawyer didn’t quote it. He just recalled a broad plot point. He didn’t say anything I myself don’t already know, and I’ve never read it either.

Then when Ben actually quoted it, Sawyer didn’t seem to recognize the text… 🙂

I recognize that detail is open to a different interpretation, I’m just giving the interpretation imputed by the present theory.  
…-  
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I’ve read Of Mice and Men a couple times many years ago and I’ve watched at least 3 movie versions of it. I didn’t recognize Benry’s quote right away either. A second before Sawyer said “What the hell are you talking about?” it occurred to me that Ben was not talking normally and was probably quoting OMaM.

Have we seen Sawyer reading Of Mice and Men on the island? If not then it’s probably something he read previously. Although, I suppose he could have also seen a movie version but I find it hard to believe he can’t read.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/203 "2006-10-28T03:28:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Wile E]  
I’ve read Of Mice and Men a couple times many years ago and I’ve watched at least 3 movie versions of it. I didn’t recognize Benry’s quote right away either. A second before Sawyer said “What the hell are you talking about?” it occurred to me that Ben was not talking normally and was probably quoting OMaM.

Have we seen Sawyer reading Of Mice and Men on the island? If not then it’s probably something he read previously. Although, I suppose he could have also seen a movie version but I find it hard to believe he can’t read.  
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He was reading it in prison.

[Screencap.](http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1189&pos=610)

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/204 "2006-10-28T09:56:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]  
I still think Sawyer can’t read.

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When did you say it before?

Anyway:

\*1. He was looking at “Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret” once, and I just couldn’t believe he’d let himself be caught dead reading this book if he knew what book it was. \*

Reading is a great way to semaphore “I don’t want to socialize.” And in this case, “I’d rather read a book aimed at 12-year-old girls than associate with any of **you** lot.”

\*2. He wouldn’t read his letter out loud, but made someone else read it instead. \*

Come on. Dramatic impact. Seeing how the content of the letter touched Kate’s fuzzy ol’ heart was more powerful than having Sawyer recite it, and his making her read it was further evidence of his unwillingness to let his guard down. (It was Kate, right? I lent the DVDs to someone.)

_3. The look on his face when he’s “reading” is not really a “reading” face but more of a “I’m trying to figure out what the hell these little scribbles could signify” face. Well, that’s a total judgment call, I know._

Sawyer has two facial expressions. Brooding scowl, and disarming grin.

_4. I’ve never seen Sawyer in a situation where I would have to explain something he did or said by reference to him having read something. This is not true of most of the characters._

He was clearly reading the notes in the bottle, when he, Michael and Jin were on the raft. I think he also scanned Jin’s Korean-to-English cheat sheet. And before they set sail, he read the name on the passport that Kate was trying to forge.

Furthermore, I think that in order to pull the cons we’ve seen him pull, he would have to have been able to produce contracts and point out the relevant bits. Again, theoretically something that could be faked, but as **SBS** points out, illiterate people are vulnerable to being conned themselves, and Sawyer’s not about to let any ducks sneak up on him.

Although, he did seem to draw a blank when Hurley observed that he looked “like somebody ran over Harry Potter.” 😉 So there’s a teeny bit of wiggle room for your theory that the island cured his dyslexia. But I think we would have heard about it by now.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/205 "2006-10-28T10:21:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Frylock]

1. The look on his face when he’s “reading” is not really a “reading” face but more of a “I’m trying to figure out what the hell these little scribbles could signify” face. Well, that’s a total judgment call, I know.

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It occurs to me - maybe you’re remembering this from the episode they figured out he needed glasses. Struggling to read if he’s far sighted makes sense here.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/206 "2006-10-28T15:11:57Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> "Dry ones? You can ask around but I couldn’t find any. It’ll be dark soon, let me get a signal fire started so they can find us. "
> 
> It’s pretty clear who he’s referring to when he says “they”, even though Ana would not have.

I assumed he was talking about rescuers looking for the downed plane, speaking as a lostaway.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-3-4-every-man-for-himself/377881/207 "2006-10-28T17:19:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
I assumed he was talking about rescuers looking for the downed plane, speaking as a lostaway.  
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Oh, I have no doubt that the writers were having a little fun with that line. Besides, just the fact that he was the one making the fire is suspicious.

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