# Lost 4.02: "Confirmed Dead" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 6, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577 "2008-02-06T20:38:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/101 "2008-02-08T22:00:23Z")
I see you’ve all missed the most significant development of the entire episode: Where’d the cow come from? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/102 "2008-02-08T22:02:11Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I see you’ve all missed the most significant development of the entire episode: Where’d the cow come from? [/QUOTE] Wasn’t that from the Mikhail’s farm? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/103 "2008-02-08T22:10:51Z")
I like the idea that Michael is Ben’s spy, but just to throw a crazy idea out there, what if… [spoiler]…CS Lewis is Ben’s “man” on the freighter? I thought Ben knew CS was wearing a vest, too. He couldn’t have known that kind of recent information from his spy, since he’s been on a leash for the last two days. Perhaps he knew because he already knows her and what precautions whe would take.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/104 "2008-02-08T22:58:29Z")
[QUOTE=Eyebrows 0f Doom] Wait, what? I just pulled that out of my ass. If that was actually a spoiler somewhere then I am _so_ sorry! I don’t go to any spoiler sites so I have no idea what people are saying may happen. ☹ [/QUOTE] The idea that the ‘man on the boat’ was Michael was spoiler boxed a few posts before yours, but that was speculation as well, so it’s not really a spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/105 "2008-02-08T23:19:32Z")
[QUOTE=UncleRojelio] The idea that the ‘man on the boat’ was Michael was spoiler boxed a few posts before yours, but that was speculation as well, so it’s not really a spoiler. [/QUOTE] Ah, I understand now. I thought speculation wasn’t supposed to be spoiler boxed so I hadn’t read that post. Sorry for the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/106 "2008-02-08T23:26:46Z")
I was just perusing the LOST website and came across the [Sawyer Nickname Generator](http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=nickname)! He called me “Betty”! Hee! ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/107 "2008-02-09T00:22:39Z")
[QUOTE=Encinitas] I was just perusing the LOST website and came across the [Sawyer Nickname Generator](http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=nickname)! He called me “Betty”! Hee! [/QUOTE] WTH? I’m “Haus”. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/108 "2008-02-09T01:47:36Z")
I saw the mentions of the character Faraday being named after the scientist Faraday but why hasn’t anyone discussed much about what the scientist Faraday is known for? I had to read about it on another site. You guys are smrt, I expect you to bring that stuff up first. Wasn’t there discussion in the second season that the hatch was some type of Faraday cage? Faraday worked with light and electromagnetics and the character Faraday made a comment about the way light scatters on the island. Come on, smrties, help me out. I let all my knowledge of physics leave my brain for other more important stuff, like pop culture trivia. Fill me in on all this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/109 "2008-02-09T02:09:30Z")
[QUOTE=Encinitas] I was just perusing the LOST website and came across the [Sawyer Nickname Generator](http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=nickname)! He called me “Betty”! Hee! [/QUOTE] I’m Huckleberry Pinhead! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/110 "2008-02-09T02:14:41Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] WTH? I’m “Haus”. [/QUOTE] Oh, maybe it’s supposed to sound like “Hoss”, as in Cartwright. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/111 "2008-02-09T02:19:15Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] WTH? I’m “Haus”. [/QUOTE] I’m Fernidad. Pleased to meet you. Good episode! I kinda wish they’d drop the future stuff and just continue from here. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/112 "2008-02-09T02:36:51Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] I’m Fernidad. Pleased to meet you. [/QUOTE] I don’t know how, but I ended up as _“Short Pants”_ :smack: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/113 "2008-02-09T02:39:11Z")
[QUOTE=divemaster] I’m Huckleberry Pinhead! :mad: [/QUOTE] I’m Huckelberry Pinhead! ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/114 "2008-02-09T04:06:03Z")
[QUOTE=delphica] Wasn’t there a Michael J. Fox movie about some guy who could talk to dead people who ran scams “cleansing” haunted houses with a vacuum cleaner? [/QUOTE] The Frighteners - directed by Peter LOTR Jackson. If anyone is curuos, here is the info on the helecopter: [http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=842M](http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=842M) I tried to do the same thing with the Nigerian plane. I couldn’t get a clear look at the tail number. Though it was a US registration one time and a Nigerian one in a later episode. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/115 "2008-02-09T04:42:12Z")
I’m “Pud.” Gee, thanks. I like how they refer to Sawyer as His Seaside Surliness 😃 As for the show, I agree that the boat guys want to talk to Jacob. Why else could the Asian Ghost-Whisperer guy possibly be there? That’s probably where Ben comes in; they know that he talks to Jacob. The red-headed chick is probably there to study the Others. Maybe she’s supposed to find out when they arrived on the island, and why. She obviously knows something about the Dharma Initiative already. The pilot must have been chosen because of his connection to Oceanic 815. My guess is, they don’t want him telling the whole world about how the crash site was faked, and they hired him because that way they can keep him far away from civilization. No ideas about the first guy. Does anybody have any theories on why he’s there? Naomi’s flashback was creepy. “There are no survivors.” I think Naomi was supposed to kill any castaways before the other four guys landed. Her helicopter was probably a gunship. I strongly suspect that something in the Swan Station is still active. That big magnet must be what caused the two helicopters to go down. It’ll probably crash the helicopter again – if Locke doesn’t blow up the helicopter first. (There’s still one bundle of dynamite, you know.) As for Michael and Walt, here’s my theory: Ben sent the submarine out to sink Michael’s boat and take Walt back again. Michael was told that he has to help Ben spy on the boat people if he ever wants to see Walt again. Michael was set adrift so that he could be rescued by the freighter. Walt was taken back to the island and hidden well away from Jack, Locke, and company. He eventually escaped, and now he’s possessed by Jacob. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/116 "2008-02-09T05:00:38Z")
I hadn’t read the whole thread before I posted, so I missed this post: [QUOTE=Wile E] I saw the mentions of the character Faraday being named after the scientist Faraday but why hasn’t anyone discussed much about what the scientist Faraday is known for? I had to read about it on another site. You guys are smrt, I expect you to bring that stuff up first. Wasn’t there discussion in the second season that the hatch was some type of Faraday cage? Faraday worked with light and electromagnetics and the character Faraday made a comment about the way light scatters on the island. Come on, smrties, help me out. I let all my knowledge of physics leave my brain for other more important stuff, like pop culture trivia. Fill me in on all this stuff. [/QUOTE] I think I know what Faraday is doing on the island. He was sent there to turn off the Super-Jumbo Magnet From Hell. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/117 "2008-02-09T05:24:28Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] I saw the mentions of the character Faraday being named after the scientist Faraday but why hasn’t anyone discussed much about what the scientist Faraday is known for? I had to read about it on another site. You guys are smrt, I expect you to bring that stuff up first. Wasn’t there discussion in the second season that the hatch was some type of Faraday cage? Faraday worked with light and electromagnetics and the character Faraday made a comment about the way light scatters on the island. Come on, smrties, help me out. I let all my knowledge of physics leave my brain for other more important stuff, like pop culture trivia. Fill me in on all this stuff. [/QUOTE] Hey man, I mentioned it in post [39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9454027&postcount=39) with a link and **indistinguishable** mentioned it in 40 and 41. We can’t teach you if you don’t listen 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/118 "2008-02-09T05:58:50Z")
[QUOTE=ZipperJJ] Hey man, I mentioned it in post [39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9454027&postcount=39) with a link and **indistinguishable** mentioned it in 40 and 41. We can’t teach you if you don’t listen 🙂 [/QUOTE] I said: > [@](#): > > I saw the **mentions** of the character Faraday being named after the scientist Faraday but **why hasn’t anyone discussed** much about what the scientist Faraday is known for? I know it was mentioned but a mention and a link to something are not a discussion or explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/119 "2008-02-09T06:16:05Z")
[QUOTE=Eyebrows 0f Doom] Ah, I understand now. I thought speculation wasn’t supposed to be spoiler boxed so I hadn’t read that post. Sorry for the confusion. [/QUOTE] Oops, got the spoiler part wrong, too, so my earlier speculation did not need to be boxed. Here it is again, open for discussion… I like the idea that Michael is Ben’s spy, but just to throw a crazy idea out there, what if… …CS Lewis is Ben’s “man” on the freighter? I thought Ben knew CS was wearing a vest, too. He couldn’t have known that kind of recent information from his spy, since he’s been on a leash for the last two days. Perhaps he knew because he already knows her and what precautions she would take. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577/120 "2008-02-09T13:13:26Z")
[QUOTE=ZipperJJ] Hey man, I mentioned it in post [39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9454027&postcount=39) with a link and **indistinguishable** mentioned it in 40 and 41. We can’t teach you if you don’t listen 🙂 [/QUOTE] I mentioned it in #46… didn’t talk about it though… 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-02-confirmed-dead/436577.md?page=7)