# Lost 4.03: "The Economist" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 14, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556 "2008-02-14T04:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/21 "2008-02-15T03:03:39Z")
What was Sayid’s final line? I heard Ben say, “Good.” What did Sayid say? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/22 "2008-02-15T03:06:11Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] What was Sayid’s final line? I heard Ben say, “Good.” What did Sayid say? [/QUOTE] “Now they know I’m looking for them” or something like that. ETA (Which is what he said before Ben’s line, what that what you were asking?). ---
**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/23 "2008-02-15T03:07:02Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] What was Sayid’s final line? I heard Ben say, “Good.” What did Sayid say? [/QUOTE] He didn’t say anything after that. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/24 "2008-02-15T03:09:19Z")
I didn’t catch anything after Ben said “good”. So, Ben, Mr “never leave the Island” is off the island, but I’m guessing he is NOT one of the Oceanic Six - I’m guessing he got off the island secretly (in order to keep the island safe?) Why does Kate want to leave the island (other than to be with Jack)? Brian ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/25 "2008-02-15T03:14:51Z")
Now I’m thinking that Ben is the mysterious person that Kate was referring to in her airport meeting of Jack. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/26 "2008-02-15T03:18:25Z")
[QUOTE=N9IWP] I didn’t catch anything after Ben said “good”. [/QUOTE] **Mahaloth** asked for Sayid’s final line, which wasn’t _the_ final line. I don’t think anything was said after Ben’s “good”. I also don’t think Ben is part of the Oceanic 6, since he wasn’t on the Oceanic flight. He got off somehow! Sayid cleans up pretty. 😃 Was the bracelet he was fingering on Elsa the same style (same one???) as Naomi’s? ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/27 "2008-02-15T03:19:07Z")
This was finally one of the better ones of the season. How much time difference were the two clocks? I thought it was something like six minutes, but don’t remember for sure. Also did anyone else catch the episode before with the extra stuff. They don’t seem to do much, but there was something interesting about the guy on the phone and relativity I think, but now I can’t remember. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/28 "2008-02-15T03:28:03Z")
Pointed out by someone on another board: All of the Oceanic 6 we’ve seen so far in detail have become what they hate. Jack is a drunk Sayid is a killer Hurley is crazy Perhaps Kate is trapped in an abusive (or at least, loveless) relationship? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/29 "2008-02-15T03:28:57Z")
[QUOTE=Edward The Head] How much time difference were the two clocks? I thought it was something like six minutes, but don’t remember for sure. [/quote] I think it was something like 31 minutes, or close to that. (Definitely in the 30s, because Faraday said something to that effect). ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/30 "2008-02-15T03:30:35Z")
[QUOTE=Edward The Head] This was finally one of the better ones of the season. How much time difference were the two clocks? I thought it was something like six minutes, but don’t remember for sure. [/QUOTE] I think he said 36 minutes, or 30-something anyway. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/31 "2008-02-15T03:50:01Z")
I concur that Faraday said “31” or 30-something. **vivalostwages** - do you know the name of the guy Sayid shot or are you asking? If you know - TELL! 😃 I caught the last 5 mins of the previous episode in “popup mode” and I saw something interesting. Or stupid. When we see the photograph of Ben that Miles holds up, the popup says something like “This shows that Ben was lying when he said he’d never been off the island.” That sounds kind of stupid and tricky to me. He’s standing next to a computer. What does that mean? There’s tons of computers on the island. Bah! ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/32 "2008-02-15T03:57:08Z")
Can someone tell me what Sayid said right after Ben said “remember what happened the last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun?” I couldn’t make it out. Something about “doing your killing for you.” Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/33 "2008-02-15T03:58:37Z")
[QUOTE=IvoryTowerDenizen] Was the bracelet he was fingering on Elsa the same style (same one???) as Naomi’s? [/QUOTE] Looked like it to me. So anybody got any guesses as to who R.G. is? Harold Perrineau (Michael) was in the credits again but still no sign of him…he’s gotta be Ben’s guy on the boat…maybe next week is when we get to see him again. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/34 "2008-02-15T04:03:15Z")
[QUOTE=IvoryTowerDenizen] “Now they know I’m looking for them” or something like that. ETA (Which is what he said before Ben’s line, what that what you were asking?). [/QUOTE] Yes, that’s what my poorly phrased post was asking for. Anyone have the exact line? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/35 "2008-02-15T04:22:43Z")
Whoa. ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/36 "2008-02-15T04:22:59Z")
Wow. Answers galore! I think it’s time we can make a concrete theory on some of the things that are going on. The island is in some type of time bubble. The missle arrived 30 minutes after it was launched, but communication is light speed. Except at very specific coordinates, any vessel that hits the barrier crashes (Flight 815, Desmond’s boat, Gale’s balloon, Rosseau’s boat, the Nigerian plane, and possibly the Black Rock). Vessels that try to leave never get away (Desmond’s boat and possibly the raft). Things can be fired at or dropped on the island if you know the coordinates, and will arrive in one piece (the missle with the watch and Dharma’s supply drop). There is also a remarkably high survival rate for those crashes. Ben is a major player in a powerful, secret organization. In one of the flashback’s, when they recruited Juliette, they seemed to work very efficiently in the outside world. They got detailed info on the Flight 815 passengers very easily. I think Ben was able to start this organization with the Others with Dharma’s facilities and the Island’s powers. And for a wilder theory… I think the freighter is Dharma, and Penelope’s father is part of Dharma’s organization. Ben hid the Island from them, and they’ve been looking for it, and of course want revenge on Ben. In Sayiid’s flash forward, he’s killing all the leaders of Dharma, so the Island will be safe. There are two definites of the Oceanic 6, Jack and Hurley, and two possibilities, Sayiid and Kate. The Losties and the Others must have teamed up in the end to defeat the freighter, and as a deal, six of them would be publicy returned to the real world, while the other Losties choose to stay on the Island, or return with new identities. Did anyone catch the initials on Naomi’s bracelet? Was it R.G.? And was the girl that Sayiid shot in the flash forward wearing a similar bracelet? Isn’t Ben’s Other friend, the one who helped Locke with Sawyer’s file, named Richard? Anyone else notice that there haven’t been any new instances of the Numbers since the hatch station exploded? Gizmo is the best Sawyerism ever. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/37 "2008-02-15T04:50:39Z")
[QUOTE=Monocracy] Did anyone catch the initials on Naomi’s bracelet? Was it R.G.? And was the girl that Sayiid shot in the flash forward wearing a similar bracelet? Isn’t Ben’s Other friend, the one who helped Locke with Sawyer’s file, named Richard? [/QUOTE] Yeah, I saw “RG” as the initials. Ben’s Other friend is named [Richard Alpert](http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Richard_Alpert), tho. I couldn’t find any other characters on the Lostpedia with the initials RG. There’s Rose Nadler, Richard Malkin (the psychic), Rachel Carlson (Juliet’s sister), Claire’s friend “Rachel” and “Ruth, Desmond’s ex-fiancee”. There were people in DHARMA with the surname “Goodspeed” but according to Lostpedia, they died in “the purge” (when Richard and Ben killed everyone with gas). ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/38 "2008-02-15T05:05:07Z")
[QUOTE=Rucksinator] Now I’m thinking that Ben is the mysterious person that Kate was referring to in her airport meeting of Jack. [/QUOTE] And I still think Ben is the one in the coffin. I’m pretty much always wrong about these things, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/39 "2008-02-15T06:00:46Z")
[QUOTE=Rachael Rage] And I still think Ben is the one in the coffin. I’m pretty much always wrong about these things, though. [/QUOTE] Possibly. I still tend to think that’s the furthest into the “future” we’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556/40 "2008-02-15T06:01:09Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] Yes, that’s what my poorly phrased post was asking for. Anyone have the exact line? [/QUOTE] Ben: “I have another name for you.” Sayid: “But they know I’m after them now…” Ben: “Good.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-03-the-economist/437556.md?page=3)