# Lost 4.12: "There's No Place Like Home"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 15, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455 "2008-05-15T17:00:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/1 "2008-05-15T17:00:16Z")
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My TV guide listing says “part of 1 of 2” for this episode. I’m not sure when part 2 airs, since my TV guide doesn’t show an episode for next week. Anyway, I’m not expecting the writers to wrap anything up necessarily, since there were originally supposed to be 16 episodes this season, and I doubt they crammed it all into 13.
From the on-screen guide for tonight’s episode:
\*\* “There’s No Place Like Home. Part 1” \*\*: The showdown between the survivors and the freighter people begins.
**Some useful Café Society links are given below:**
Thread index for Season 1 Episodes: [1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277083) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278382) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=279542) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=280792) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=281998) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283328) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284665) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=285925) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=287237) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289514) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290718) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=295320) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296591) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297760) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301602) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302710) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304986) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309511) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310613) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315048) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316088) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317139) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318051)
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[The Official Lost Jargon Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286221)
Official “Lost” Questions Thread[Season 1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284542), [Season 2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336040), [Season 3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390739)
**Here are some interesting external links:**
[The Lost Report](http://hometown.aol.com/qcotms/myhomepage/index.html): A very well written summary of the most current episode often containing interesting insights. I don’t think you’ll find spoilers.
[The Tail Section](http://www.thetailsection.com/): Excellent site for still frame photos of key scenes, along with some good analysis. But… beware of spoilers!
[Sledgeweb’s Lost… Stuff](http://lost.cubit.net/): Pretty good site, but again beware of spoilers. I use it mainly for the Timeline section, which is an incredibly detailed breakdown of “how long since…?” for almost anything you can think of (pre- and post-plane crash).
[Door Map from Episode 2.17](http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg). A nicely cleaned up version of the diagram Locke saw while pinned under the lockdown doors. No spoilers.
[Lostpedia](http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page): The wikipedia of Lost information. Quite a comprehensive site, but beware of spoilers!
[ThEmIsFiTiShErE](http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/): The Misfit offers his whacky commentary on “Lost”. Is he a nut-case or a clever insider? Careful, though, possible spoilers.
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### Author:  [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/2 "2008-05-15T17:06:25Z")
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> My TV guide listing says “part of 1 of 2” for this episode. I’m not sure when part 2 airs, since my TV guide doesn’t show an episode for next week. Anyway, I’m not expecting the writers to wrap anything up necessarily, since there were originally supposed to be 16 episodes this season, and I doubt they crammed it all into 13.
Part 2 is the two hour season finale in two weeks. Next week Grey’s Anatomy does it’s two hour season ender thingy.
That’s a lotta twos.
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### Author:  [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/3 "2008-05-15T17:08:45Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace]
My TV guide listing says “part of 1 of 2” for this episode. I’m not sure when part 2 airs, since my TV guide doesn’t show an episode for next week.
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Its really part 1 of 3. The season finale is 3 hours long, they are showing part 1 tonight and parts 2 & 3 as a 2 hour special on the 29th.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/4 "2008-05-15T17:46:59Z")
You know, a few days ago my guide said part 1 of 3, but then yesterday it said part 1 of 2. I guess that explains it.
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### Author:  [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/5 "2008-05-15T17:55:53Z")
My gosh, I am so excited for this, gang. So curious to see what’s up with my current fave cast people Desmond, Sawyer, and Ben. (I want a weepy goodbye between Sawyer & Kate) Curious how Hurley gets to the beach. Want to see Keamy get annihilated. Wonder if Abbadon shows up this ep. What will happen to Juliet? Will she be forced to stay with Ben’s group, since she wasn’t on Oceanic originally? Any speculation on who’s behind Oceanic Air Corp? Dharma? Widmore? Paik? Jacob?
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### Author:  [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/6 "2008-05-15T18:51:01Z")
Does anyone know who is the subject of tonight’s episode?
Zev Steinhardt
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### Author:  [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/7 "2008-05-15T23:41:30Z")
Most importantly, how will Sawyer breastfeed little Aaron?
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/8 "2008-05-16T02:29:24Z")
I love how the opening was essentially filmed as the “ending” of the whole show. The swelling music, the happy reunions, everything was concluded…except that we already know it doesn’t work out.
This show is far better than ever.
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### Author:  [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/9 "2008-05-16T02:54:20Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages]
Most importantly, how will Sawyer breastfeed little Aaron?
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Have any of these writers ever had a baby??? Where’s the baby carrier? The diaper bag? The burp cloths??? Not even a rattle or pacifier…either this is Hollywood or Kate’s the worst Mom ever…
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### Author:  [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/10 "2008-05-16T03:00:51Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages]
Most importantly, how will Sawyer breastfeed little Aaron?
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Someone’s gonna have to milk a boar!
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/11 "2008-05-16T03:02:39Z")
I always have a plan.
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### Author:  [@Offkenter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Offkenter)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/12 "2008-05-16T03:03:28Z")
[QUOTE=Annie]
Someone’s gonna have to milk a boar!
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Nah, Sawyer’ll be able to con the boar into “donating” the milk 🙂
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### Author:  [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/13 "2008-05-16T03:12:22Z")
[QUOTE=Loach]
I always have a plan.
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Quote of the night?
How about “Cut yourself shaving?”. 😃
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### Author:  [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/14 "2008-05-16T03:27:23Z")
Loved loved loved this show tonight.
But but I thought the captain of the freighter was shot, like, dead, last week. My bad, I guess.
Love how Sawyer can’t just leave Hurley.
Love how Alpert just showed up.
Love how Michael didn’t know Jin spoke English. And esp. love Sun totally conning her father.!
So, was Ben signaling Richard or Ben with that mirror. oh and “those crackers are 15 years old” - that was a good line too.
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### Author:  [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/15 "2008-05-16T03:28:54Z")
Wow…nice episode. And Alpert shows at the end!!! He has some 'splaining to do!
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### Author:  [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/16 "2008-05-16T03:30:47Z")
“Jesus Christ is not a weapon!”
Another great episode!
I felt so bad for Claire’s mother after she told Jack about Claire. He knew Aaron was her granddaughter but couldn’t let her know. ☹
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### Author:  [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/17 "2008-05-16T03:31:52Z")
[QUOTE=well he’s back]
So, was Ben signaling Richard or Ben with that mirror.
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I was about to correct you, and then I realized that Ben \*just might be \* signaling Ben. Very shrewd observation, **whb**!
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### Author:  [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/18 "2008-05-16T03:38:42Z")
Paul the Younger - no I wasn’t be shrewd, just tired. I thought he might be signalling Jacob.
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### Author:  [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/19 "2008-05-16T03:39:55Z")
Sow now we have two of the Oceanic 6 on the freighter, one on the beach, one at the Orchid, one on his way to the Orchid, and another captured by the Others. I keep wondering how they’re gonna get them all back in the same place to be rescued?
Do you think the freighter’s zodiac is the boat that’s in the picture taken by the fishermen on the inhabited island?
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### Author:  [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-4-12-theres-no-place-like-home/449455/20 "2008-05-16T03:43:30Z")
[QUOTE=well he’s back]
Paul the Younger - no I wasn’t be shrewd, just tired. I thought he might be signalling Jacob.
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Even so, you may be right…if Ben does have the ability to time travel, than that could be part of his “plan”. Come back from the future and leave something to help him rescue himself.
A stretch, but what in this show isn’t?
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