# Lost 5.10 "He's Our You" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774 "2009-03-25T18:36:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/21 "2009-03-26T02:15:17Z")
> [@Alias](#): > > All I can say is wow! I did not see that coming. I wonder if this will alter things, or if we’ll get a miraculous island resurrection. The only thing that won’t be too irritating is if it was more of like a “plastic time” sort of event. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/22 "2009-03-26T02:15:55Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > Zombie Ben managed to grow old unlike Alpert. I think it’s going to be one of those “island won’t let you die moments.” Sayid should have put one behind the ear to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/23 "2009-03-26T02:24:03Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > Zombie Ben managed to grow old unlike Alpert. Maybe the island allows you to age to being an adult, then stops the aging. Or maybe I’m completely wrong. I know which way _I_ would bet. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/24 "2009-03-26T02:24:52Z")
Guys - I missed the first part of the episode. Was it explained this week why Sayid starting killing for Ben and why he stopped? as to the episode - Those Dharmites seem to be murderous hypocrites. (Oooh. Don’t tell AnnArbor!) Loved Sayid asking the bounty hunter to take another flight: Are you sure we’re going to Guam? And I’m still so impressed with Sawyer as a leader. Oh and the only way Sayid could have been sure Ben wouldn’t survive like Mikhail is if he had cut off Ben’s head. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/25 "2009-03-26T02:26:05Z")
Wasn’t the book Ben gave Sayid called Separate Realities? As soon as I saw it, I thought he might kill Ben and realize later that it does not make “our Ben” disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/26 "2009-03-26T02:27:09Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Guys - I missed the first part of the episode. Was it explained this week why Sayid starting killing for Ben and why he stopped? > as to the episode - Ben convinced Sayid that certain individuals in the Widmore organization threatened Sayid’s friends. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/27 "2009-03-26T02:27:14Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Guys - I missed the first part of the episode. Was it explained this week why Sayid starting killing for Ben and why he stopped? > as to the episode - > Those Dharmites seem to be murderous hypocrites. (Oooh. Don’t tell AnnArbor!) > Loved Sayid asking the bounty hunter to take another flight: Are you sure we’re going to Guam? > And I’m still so impressed with Sawyer as a leader. > Oh and the only way Sayid could have been sure Ben wouldn’t survive like Mikhail is if he had cut off Ben’s head. Sayid was killing people for Ben because Sayid believed that the people he was killing were threats to his friends. He quit because he had managed to kill everyone on the list. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/28 "2009-03-26T02:39:40Z")
> [@mshar253](#): > > He better make sure he’s dead. If they pull some crap where he’s only wounded (in spite of taking a shot to the chest and weighing about 85 lbs.) I’m going to be extremely disappointed. Especially since Sayid is a freaking assassin. Well, there also is the fact that Ben shot Locke point blank in season 3, and Locke fell into the Dharma-grave-pit. But Locke recovered… on his own… apparently because the island still needed him, to be the Other-Leader perhaps? We know that grown-up Ben becomes the Other-Leader, so maybe despite being shot with what should be a lethal wound (like Locke), young Ben will also recover because the island needs him at the time? Looking like a possible parallel here, to me. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/29 "2009-03-26T02:45:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > There is the fact that Sayid did not fire off the “killing shot”, which is the key indicator in movies/TV of a character truly being shot dead. Once… your opponent is coming back after you. Twice? They’re dead. Tic-Tac: “Your first shot puts him down. Then you put one in the brain. Then he’s dead. Then we go home.” Johnny Caspar: “Something I try to teach all my boys… Always put one in the brain!” > [@Merijeek](#): > > Sayid was killing people for Ben because Sayid believed that the people he was killing were threats to his friends. He quit because he had managed to kill everyone on the list. As for starting, there’s that… and there’s also the sparking incident of Nadia’s murder, presumably at the hands of Widmore’s agents. (Well, according to Ben… and we all know how **that** works!) ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/30 "2009-03-26T02:54:46Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > As for starting, there’s that… and there’s also the sparking incident of Nadia’s murder, presumably at the hands of Widmore’s agents. (Well, according to Ben… and we all know how **that** works!) Oh god, that reminded my of my favorite line from the show… Ben: Locke is dead, Sayid. I think he was murdered. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/31 "2009-03-26T03:12:49Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Well, there also is the fact that Ben shot Locke point blank in season 3, and Locke fell into the Dharma-grave-pit. But Locke recovered… on his own… apparently because the island still needed him, to be the Other-Leader perhaps? > > We know that grown-up Ben becomes the Other-Leader, so maybe despite being shot with what should be a lethal wound (like Locke), young Ben will also recover because the island needs him at the time? Looking like a possible parallel here, to me. Yeah, we’ve already seen several instances of characters who are supposedly dead coming back to life. There’s no way Young Ben is _really_ dead. I like Faraday’s theory that whatever has happened cannot be changed and I don’t think they’d completely do away with that so easily. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/32 "2009-03-26T03:15:54Z")
Wow. Puts all those questions last week about the purge to rest, doesn’t it? Favorite line of the night from Sawyer: “Even a new mother wants you dead.” ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/33 "2009-03-26T03:19:08Z")
My WAG: Young Ben is not dead, but is critically wounded. Jin comes to, drives him back to Dharmaville, and, hey, is there a doctor in the house? Yeah, Jack is going to save Ben’s life. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/34 "2009-03-26T03:24:58Z")
I didn’t care for how when they gave Sayid the “truth telling” serum, they repeated how it would make him incapable of lying. And then when he divulges the info, all of a sudden it’s, “Oooops. Must’ve given him too much.” And oh, I’m I’ve seen the future, and I’m going to let you in on a bit of it: This week’s discussion is going to make my brain hurt. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/35 "2009-03-26T03:33:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Sayid spilling the beans and not a soul believing him I loved that, though it was totally predictable . . . and the look on Sawyer’s face. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/36 "2009-03-26T06:58:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Naw, the island heals people and (apparently) brings them back from the dead. So I guess who we’ve known since season 2 as “Ben” is really Zombie Ben. He’s not a zombie if he didn’t die and was only healed. According to Faraday he can’t be killed. Sayid should have put a few bullets in the brain. > [@Monstre](#): > > Sawyer: “Three years and no burning buses. Now ya’ll are back for one day…” Best quote of the season! > [@JohnT](#): > > My favorite line was Ben telling Sayid: “Mission Accomplished.” What a prick! > [@Merijeek](#): > > He quit because he had managed to kill everyone on the list. They explained why he quit, but they didn’t (to my satisfaction anyway) explain why Sayid suddenly started distrusting Ben and wanting vengeance against him. I get the impression though that we were shown all that we’re gonna be shown and either I just didn’t get it, or it was written poorly. Anyone else get a sense of why Ben’s little speech was enough to turn Sayid so completely against him? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/37 "2009-03-26T11:20:11Z")
I agree, Jack is going to be forced to save Ben’s life. Oh and speaking of Jack, one of my favorite Jack Bauer moments comes to mind: “Shoot him again!” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/38 "2009-03-26T13:21:25Z")
So…have we seen their Sayid before? ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/39 "2009-03-26T13:30:48Z")
I like how Richard follows current fasion trends. Short hair in the 50s and in the present, but in the 70s he did the long hair thing 😃 ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774/40 "2009-03-26T13:34:50Z")
I don’t think JAck is going to save his life. I think it’s Juliet, and she’s going to nurture him, try to change him by giving him some love and direction, thus setting up the creepy bond that he has with her once he becomes an adult, and when she’s 3 years younger than she is now… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-10-hes-our-you/490774.md?page=3)