# Lost 5.13 "Some Like It Hoth"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 15, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202 "2009-04-15T18:32:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/101 "2009-04-20T01:41:01Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Except “20 years ago” from Flight 815 is 1984. If they were setting up the army '50s guys it should have been 50 years ago.

She said they hadn’t been MADE in 20 years, not that this one was only 20 years old.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/102 "2009-04-20T06:35:42Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> Well, they did have the photos of the recruits that Christian showed to Sun. They probably did have onsite facilities.

Or maybe they just have Polaroids.

> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> I figured Hurley had something to do with the Hoth reference in the title…still waiting for the Hurley episode though. I just want to know what Hurley improved on in Empire.

We’ll probably never know. Because clearly George Lucas took Hurley’s script and changed some things (i.e. took out the “improvements” that Hurley made). Because, you know.. whatever happened, happened…

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Also, continuity glitch–if Hurley saw Empire 200+ times, there’s no way he wouldn’t get the time-travel stuff. He’s probably seen Back To The Future a hundred times. He shouldn’t even blink at this.

Empire had no time travel in it. BTTF used a different model (ability to change timelines).

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Since Dr. Candle had a hissy-fit when the time-travelling bunny got near it’s earlier counterpart, I’m guessing The Incident is Big Miles touching L’il Miles

The Incident: Big Miles changes Baby Miles’ diaper, almost destroying the universe. 😃

I think the Incident, whoever causes it, will end up moving our time-shifted-to-the-70s Losties back to the fut… er… the present.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/103 "2009-04-20T15:04:59Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Now put the two together, and you have the ‘smoke monster’. It can read the past thoughts of the dead, and use them to project new copies of those dead people - so long as their bodies are on the island. Eko’s brother, Locke, Christian Shepard, Charlie, etc.

What about Ben’s mother?

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/104 "2009-04-20T15:10:37Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Or maybe they just have Polaroids.

The framed photos didn’t look like polaroids. But it’s ceratainly possible. The transcript is ambiguous:

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> MAN: Okay, ready? Everybody say, “Namaste!”
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> ALL: Namaste.
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> HURLEY: Nama-what?
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> [Camera shutter snaps]

[http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Namaste\_transcript](http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Namaste_transcript)

I dunno, it’s possible. OTOH, they had the equipment to develop Ben’s X-rays.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/105 "2009-04-20T18:57:15Z")

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In 2004, how difficult is it to have a photo printer?

I had one in my house at the time.

As for photos developed in the 70’s, it wouldn’t be shocking if Dharma had a dark room. There are obviously a lot of things they want to catalog.

In the alternative, they could have sent the film to the mainland for development.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/106 "2009-04-20T18:58:46Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> In the alternative, they could have sent the film to the mainland for development.

True. They had the regular sub-runs then.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/107 "2009-04-20T20:59:18Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> I dunno, it’s possible. OTOH, they had the equipment to develop Ben’s X-rays.

Or they just stuck a Polaroid down his throat. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/108 "2009-04-20T21:01:32Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Or they just stuck a Polaroid down his throat. 😃

Maybe his cancer x-rays came out of the black box like an Eggo from a toaster. I’m picturing the x-ray popping up with an AOL-styled “You got cancer!”

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**Author:** ![TooSchoolforCool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tooschoolforcool/32/19621_2.png) [@TooSchoolforCool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TooSchoolforCool)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/109 "2009-04-21T01:29:10Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I’m not sure if the “visions” (Bloody Boone, dead Horace) are the same thing as the “ghosts” They’re a lot more crypt and strange. As far as I can remember, only Locke has had them. It’s possible he sees them because he’s so intuned with the island.

I think the dream/visions are different than the ghost/apparitions. The dream stuff appears to only one person at a time, while the ghosts are apparently actually “there.” The dream people dont act in tune with reality: Horace for instance is on a time loop, and Bloody Boone is total dream logic (scenes skipping around).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-13-some-like-it-hoth/493202/110 "2009-04-21T01:39:54Z")

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Developing and printing photos isn’t that difficult. You can do it in your bathroom. Dharma can certainly afford a small photo lab.

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