# Lost 5.6 "316" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427 "2009-02-18T18:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/81 "2009-02-19T13:17:51Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I think it’s pretty apparent there wasn’t a crash this time, but they were zapped to the island. Perhaps that’s what happened the first time around, with Oceanic 815… the main players were zapped safely to the ground, but the plane also broke up and crashed, leaving other survivors and many more killed. So, the main cast just obviously assumed they survived the wreck? Does that make sense? It makes more sense than 80 people surviving a plane breaking into 3 pieces and falling 35000 feet out of the sky. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/82 "2009-02-19T13:26:17Z")
Perhaps the rest of the passengers noticed the 6 at least somewhat famous Oceanic passengers sitting at the front of the plane and decided not to take that dream vacation to Guam. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/83 "2009-02-19T13:32:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So, uh, what’s with the Kate=slut thing, guys? Not sure, but after that scene I looked at phungal and said "if you want to play ‘Lost,’ let me know and I will start things off with ‘where’s Aaron’ " ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/84 "2009-02-19T13:58:28Z")
A)Lamp-post is the line of demarcation between Narnia and the Professor’s closet. Oh those whacky literary Dharma folks. B)Timekeeper Lady STOLE the show with her science lecture. C)Desmond’s exit makes me worry for Penny and Charlie. “I’m through with the island”/"The island’s not through with you. D)Doesn’t anyone ever ask “Why”? EVER? 1. Why does the Island want us in particular? 2. Why does the Island want ANYTHING? 3. What IS the Island? 4. You’re using the term “Electro-magnetic energy” in a way that’s unheard of outside of SPACE-1999\*–what the hell? 5. Why a plane–why not a boat? Why kill all those other people? E) Did we ever see grandpa before? F) “You will never ask me about Aaron again”–um. No. I’ll ask you if he was kidnapped or what. Did you kill Aaron? You are a psycho, after all." (I’m guessing that Ghost-Claire came and got him.) G) Good for Hurley. Once again proving he’s one of the only two or three moral people on the show. (By buying all the extra tickets) H) How much you wanna bet that the Locke’s note will say “Don’t bring Ben back!” (This guess? 100% wrong) I) Why didn’t Lepetis turn back? He KNEW what was going to happen. J) “How can you read?”/“My mother taught me. :rolleyes:” Ben is SUCH a dick. And the actor is SO good. \*A build up of “electro-magnetic radiation” blew the moon in half and sent it hurling through the universe at faster than light speeds. But somehow steerable. Hey, maybe the Island is a piece of Space: 1999’s moon! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/85 "2009-02-19T14:23:40Z")
Ben’s “who cares?” line was the highlight of the show for me. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/86 "2009-02-19T14:27:10Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > I found some of the character substitutions interesting. Jack was himself. Sayid was obviously taking Kate’s place as the person in custody. But it took me a little while to work out that Hurley was doing Charlie (with the guitar). What I was trying to figure out was whether there was anyone filling in as Locke (i.e. a guy in a wheelchair) on the Ajira flight. Maybe Ben, being all beat to hell and with his arm in a sling, but definitely not the same thing as a paraplegic. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/87 "2009-02-19T14:32:54Z")
I didn’t find it on Lostpedia yet but has anyone done a comparison to where they were sitting on the plance compared to the [Flight 815 seating chart](http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Seating_chart)? ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/88 "2009-02-19T14:53:02Z")
Jack didn’t ask Ben about his beat up condition because they were getting near the island. The island robs you of the ability to ask obvious questions. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/89 "2009-02-19T14:54:27Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Jack didn’t ask Ben about his beat up condition because they were getting near the island. The island robs you of the ability to ask obvious questions. Or because he hates the guy and wishes him a slow painful death. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/90 "2009-02-19T15:18:52Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > A)J) “How can you read?”/“My mother taught me. :rolleyes:” Ben is SUCH a dick. And the actor is SO good. My favorite thing about that line is that it’s… wait for it… another lie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/91 "2009-02-19T15:20:12Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > “Wait. We’re not going to Guam, are we?” > > I always did love Frank. One of the few characters on this show that could count their fingers and come up with the same number twice. > > -Joe Heh, and that’s a very Lapidesque line in itself. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/92 "2009-02-19T15:21:36Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > B)Timekeeper Lady STOLE the show with her science lecture. [raises hand] I thought it was cheesy writing and overwrought acting. [/quietly lowers hand] -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/93 "2009-02-19T15:23:21Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > Perhaps the rest of the passengers noticed the 6 at least somewhat famous Oceanic passengers sitting at the front of the plane and decided not to take that dream vacation to Guam. 😃 Hurley bought up all the other seats. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/94 "2009-02-19T15:30:50Z")
There was a brief scene where Jack and Ben glance back from what I assume is the first class section and see people. Jack asks Ben, “what about the other passengers.” Ben says, “who cares?” So I think Hurley bought up all of the \*unsold \*tickets, but probably only did that a day or so before they left. ---
**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/95 "2009-02-19T15:44:08Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > F) “You will never ask me about Aaron again”–um. No. I’ll ask you if he was kidnapped or what. Did you kill Aaron? You are a psycho, after all." (I’m guessing that Ghost-Claire came and got him.) Yet more proof that Jack is too self-absorbed to actually give a damn about the poor kid, nephew or not. Aaron’s lucky that Kate didn’t marry Jack after all. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/96 "2009-02-19T16:23:13Z")
B)Timekeeper Lady STOLE the show with her science lecture. > [@Frylock](#): > > [raises hand] > > I thought it was cheesy writing and overwrought acting. > > [/quietly lowers hand] > > -FrL- I have to agree. The show kind of came off it’s rails at that point for me. Lucky it quickly got back on track after they left. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/97 "2009-02-19T17:12:14Z")
OK the Hurley thing and the seats on the plane. Many of the seats on the plane were already sold when Hurley got there at which time he became aware that there were plenty of seats left for anybody who either wanted a ticket or had a standby fare. Airlines usually specify standby until 20 minutes to board since standbys represent either a bargain based fair or a normal fair wanting to board a flight other than their original assigned. They do this to maximize their potential to sell full fairs as late as possible. Hurley knew he couldn’t do anything about the people already holding tickets and the counter person told him that there were standbys waiting so he knew that he could save SOMEBODY by buying up all of the remaining fares at full price. The O6 must have been in the business of first class session and the lower class fares (which usually sell out fast) were behind them. The class difference could also explain the standby situation. Many people who didn’t want to pay for business or 1st class may have been familiar with the fact that the route doesn’t usually fill up except for coach and so there could have ben many standbys that Hurley pissed off but saved. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/98 "2009-02-19T17:16:00Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Many people who didn’t want to pay for business or 1st class may have been familiar with the fact that the route doesn’t usually fill up except for coach and so there could have ben many standbys that Hurley pissed off but saved. Of course, they won’t even know they were (or weren’t) saved because it looks like the plane didn’t crash. 😉 But we’re led to believe that all of the returnees assumed it would. ---
**Author:** ![Wash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@Wash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wash)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/99 "2009-02-19T17:19:56Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > Hm. I wonder how literally this “character substitution” is going to be. Or more specifically, if Frank is the pilot this time, is the smoke monster going to go after him? I’d be pissed if he dies - like **Merijeek** noted, he’s one of the few characters that actually seems to put some thought into what’s happening. Frank was supposed to be the pilot for Oceanic 815. Perhaps the Island wanted Frank there, and so killed Pilot Parkman via the Smoke Monster because he wasn’t Frank? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427/100 "2009-02-19T17:25:45Z")
> [@Rachael\_Rage](#): > > All I came in to say is: > > Woo hoo - [Said Taghmaoui](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0846548/)!! > > Love that guy. He’s too big a name to just be a random passenger, so I’m betting he ends up on the island too, for some reason. Or am I misremembering? Has he ever been on the show before in a flashback or something? I recognized him as the “no problem my main man” guy from Three Kings. > [@randwill](#): > > Jack didn’t ask Ben about his beat up condition because they were getting near the island. The island robs you of the ability to ask obvious questions. Well, that and he knows Ben well enough to know that the guy just attracts beatings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-5-6-316/486427.md?page=6)